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The Detroit Tigers have traded left-hander David Price to the Toronto Blue Jays for left-handers Daniel Norris, Matt Boyd and Jairo Labourt, the teams announced Thursday.

Price is 9-4 with a 2.53 ERA this season. He will be a free agent after the season.

It is the second big deal this week for the Blue Jays, who also acquired shortstop Troy Tulowitzki from the Colorado Rockies as they make a push in the AL East. The Blue Jays -- seven games back of the first-place New York Yankees entering Thursday's games -- have not made the postseason since 1993.

Price is 7-0 with a 3.86 ERA in his career at Rogers Centre, his most wins without a loss at any stadium in the league. The Westgate SuperBook moved the Blue Jays' odds to win the World Series from 25-1 to 16-1 with the acquisition of Price. The Kansas City Royals remain the favorites at 7-2.

The Tigers acquired Price before the trade deadline last summer. This season has not gone as planned for the team. The Tigers entered Thursday fourth in the AL Central at 49-52 after starting the season 11-2.

Get him out on the road

Blue Jays starters have the second-highest ERA in away games this season at 5.03 (3.62 at home). David Price is 6-2 with a 2.10 ERA on the road this season.

Tigers general manager Dave Dombrowski said he told multiple teams Wednesday afternoon that the team would listen on all its potential free agents -- Price, Yoenis Cespedes, closer Joakim Soria and others -- before Friday's trade deadline.

Dombrowski labeled the decision a "rebooting," saying the Tigers have a solid foundation going forward.

"We're only going to make a trade if we think it makes sense for us," the GM said, according to MLB.com. "But we think it gives us a chance to restock our club."

The 22-year-old Norris was Toronto's No. 2 pick in 2011 and made his major league debut last season. He recorded his first career win April 9 against the Yankees.

Labourt, 21, signed with the Blue Jays for $350,000 out of the Dominican Republic in 2011. He has 276 strikeouts in 291 1/3 professional innings.

Boyd, 24, was selected by Toronto in the 16th round of the 2013 draft out of Oregon State. He went 15-12 with a 2.50 ERA and 277 strikeouts in 270 innings in the Blue Jays' minor league system. Toronto called him up in late June and he went 0-2 with a 14.85 ERA in two starts.
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Price and Tulowitzki to the Blue Jays? Nice moves. Yankees might be in trouble now.
 

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I love their hauls. The Tigers, to my eyes, got what are being reported as two sure thing big leaguers. Fullmer in the Cespedes deal and Norris in the Toronto deal. And when I say sure thing big leaguers - I mean two guys that are going to be rotation stalwarts throughout their career - contingent on health as all prospect deals are. This deal could bust out on Detroit really quick, you never know. But for the risk - I like the guys they got. Jacoby Jones, over in the Soria deal, is also a high upside shot in the dark. But Dombrowski's farm systems have developed high risk high reward guys in the past (and other GMs see it - Detroit's farm system has been reported as barren for almost a decade now and Dombrowski has NEVER had trouble buying what he needed).

In Dombrowski I trust, I think he just saved this team's future. These are high upside arms. If Verlander can just be on the level of a typical number two and Sanchez can stay productive - they look good. Norris could break out as soon as next year. There are a LOT of free agent outfielders on the market this year. Including Alex Gordon. He's the same sort of multi-talented tool that Cespedes is. And you know for every five dollar hot and ready you purchase from Little Caesars one dollar goes to beating your favorite team at baseball. So they can sign him if he'll take their money.

That and one good mid-rotation arm off the market, and you're looking at a team that could do something.

Of course Dombrowski doesn't know how to build a bullpen so that'll still suck. But, welcome to Detroit.
 

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Toronto Blue Jays always make the big moves that's supposed to propel them to the World Series but never even make the playoffs. Would not be surprised to see them fall flat on their face although I hope they do well.
 

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Toronto Blue Jays always make the big moves that's supposed to propel them to the World Series but never even make the playoffs. Would not be surprised to see them fall flat on their face although I hope they do well.
I think your memory of the Jays are quite off. Under the current GM the only major moves that he made before the current one was 2 years ago when the Jays acquired Jose Reyes, Dickey, and a bunch of other players. The moves that were made that off season hasn't worked out and we'll see how the current moves will turn out.

The Jays have been bad for way too long. I can't remember the last time that they made a major push at the trade deadline. Before the addition of the second wildcard the Jays were usually already out of it by August.
 

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Toronto Blue Jays always make the big moves that's supposed to propel them to the World Series but never even make the playoffs. Would not be surprised to see them fall flat on their face although I hope they do well.
The Toronto Blue Jays greatest advantage is that they CAN make deadline moves. Financially - they're a rich team. They haven't made many in-season moves of late, but any time they feel like they're close? They're gonna go for it. And it makes sense to go now - with two wild cards, it behooves a team to gun for a spot if they think they can win a few series once they get in. Gotta commend them for doing the right thing and making moves - with their offense, they have to make the big moves.
 

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I was mainky referencing the Marlins trade...also..I don't know how many times the Jays rattled off a huge winning streak only to fizzle out almost every season.

I really hope they can keep this streak up and win the world series.
 

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I was mainky referencing the Marlins trade...also..I don't know how many times the Jays rattled off a huge winning streak only to fizzle out almost every season.

I really hope they can keep this streak up and win the world series.
Yeah, but what you're looking at is the wrong aspect of those seasons. The Toronto Blue Jays have been a historical anomaly in baseball. Look at their team history. The Blue Jays came into the big leagues in 1977. In 1982 the team reached the upper 70s in wins. Since then the Blue Jays have been above 73 wins every season but three. Two of them were strike shortened seasons (94, 95). Only once since 1982 have the Blue Jays had below 73 wins (04). One time. So they've basically been a "good" team almost every year for 33 years. ALL good teams rattle off winning streaks, look like world beaters for a few weeks in a row at some point. Hell, this year's Tigers rolled out to an 11-2 jump before letting us know what they were, and they're a lot worse than many Blue Jay teams over the past decade-plus.

The difference between the Blue Jays and most of the rest of baseball is that they're ALWAYS good. So even when they're bad, by their standards, we still see them rattle off hot streaks. So they always seem to be falling just short. They're just... always there. Eventually a team like that is going to run into some WS. With their media market - that's about how it should be really.
 

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They haven't been a good team...They've been very average for a very very long time. I don't remember the last time they even made the post season..Must have been over 15+ years..Part of that has to do with being in the same division as the Yankees and the Bosox but still...I don't know how you can say they've been a good team..they've been close to .500 but that to me is the definition of average.
 

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We haven't made the playoffs in 21 years since we won the World Series in 1993.

1998 was the closest we were to making it.

A promising statistic/indicator is the fact that we have the highest run differential in the MLB this year.

A discouraging Stat is I believe is we are like 5-37 in games we score 3 runs or less.
 

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They haven't been a good team...They've been very average for a very very long time. I don't remember the last time they even made the post season..Must have been over 15+ years..Part of that has to do with being in the same division as the Yankees and the Bosox but still...I don't know how you can say they've been a good team..they've been close to .500 but that to me is the definition of average.
Well, look at what you've just said: they've been a .500 team. A .500 team in terms of talent that runs into some luck in close games and plays up to 88+ wins happens just about every single season, if not more than once. Those teams at .500 are good ball teams, and run off hot streaks every year. Very few teams play right at .500 without looking like world beaters for a minute somewhere to offset the sort of losing streak a .500 team typically succumbs to at least once if not more.

Take into account where they are in terms of that, plus the fact that they played in the toughest environment year in and year out until things softened up schedule-wise and opposition-wise the past few years. They've had to be a good team to play to that level, no fluke. They've been good. Just not lucky or great.
 
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