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There are late deals being anounced

www.nba.com/transactions/...tions.html


2002-03 season
June Transactions

June 26

Cleveland traded G WESLEY PERSON to Memphis for G NICK ANDERSON and draft rights to F MATT BARNES.

Denver traded F ANTONIO McDYESS, draft rights to G FRANK WILLIAMS and a 2003 second-round pick to New York for C MARCUS CAMBY, G MARK JACKSON and draft rights to F NENE HILARIO.

L.A. Lakers traded G LINDSEY HUNTER and draft rights to F CHRIS JEFFERIES to Toronto for F TRACY MURRAY and draft rights to G KAREEM RUSH.

Orlando traded draft rights to C CURTIS BORCHARDT to Utah for draft rights to F RYAN HUMPHREY and F/C JAMAL SAMPSON.

Philadelphia traded G SPEEDY CLAXTON to San Antonio for F MARK BRYANT and draft rights to G/F JOHN SALMONS and F RANDY HOLCOMB.

Philadelphia traded draft rights to G JIRI WELSCH to Golden State for two future draft picks.

Sacramento traded draft rights to G DAN DICKAU to Atlanta for future draft pick.
 

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Why does Orlando always draft a center, which is a position they need, and then trade them? Sampson could be good in the future, but he isn't gonna do anything except hang out with Steven Hunter on the bench next season... Humphrey is underrated, but at that pick, I'm not so sure....
 

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Trading Haywood was a major mistake last year, depending on the future pick. An unprotected pick from the Wiz 2-3 years down the road might be a top 5.
 

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It is going to be a while before the Magic can touch a top 5 pick from the Wizards. It is also not at the Magic's discretion. If I recall correctly when a pick that is unprotected is available the Magic get it. I think it also doesn't start until 2004. and is a few years before it approaches the top 5 being unprotected.
 

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Hawks make Dickau the starting PG. Terry moves to SG.

Dickau
Terry
Demarr Johnson
Shareef
Ratliff

and look at the depth

Toni Kukoc
Nazr Mohammed
Jacque Vaughn
Dion Glover
Leon Smith
Alan Henderson
Hanno Mottola

These are good players. This is a good team. They will make the playoffs.

But they won't be champs anytime soon.
 

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With the Knicks,Atlanta and the Bucks probably pushing for the playoffs this season doesn't this make the Bulls chance of making it more remote. Even though we have improved a lot we have to leap over teams to get there.

With the Knicks trade they must make it. Atlanta is giving refunds if they don't so I guess they are pretty sure they are. The Bucks just imploded last year so its unlikely they will make miss again.

What are everyone elses thoughts on this?
 

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fear7 depends on who we get in free agency. With our cap space we wont get a top player thats for sure. However i agree with chandler when he said no more lottery picks. So even if we dont make the play offs we should have 30 plus wins. That is if no one gets injured.
 

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I don't see the Knicks making the play-offs. Weren't there rumors that McDyess was very unhappy with the trade? I don't think Mark Jackson gets enough credit for the little bit of winning the Knicks did last year, and now he's gone. Who's their center? Whose their starting PG? Spree and Houston still the SG/SF combo? I just can't see that waht they did yesterday made them anything but marginally better....... now *or* in the future.

Atlanta will be competitive if they can stay healthy. IF They and the Bulls probably had the most significant injury problems last season.
 

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Late trades that weren't announced during the draft: The 76ers sent Speedy Claxton to the Spurs for Mark Bryant, No. 26 pick John Salmons and No. 57 Randy Holcomb; the Grizzlies moved Nick Anderson and No. 46 pick Matt Barnes to the Cavs for Wesley Person; the Magic dealt No. 18 Curtis Borchardt to the Jazz for No. 19 Ryan Humphrey and No. 47 Jamal Sampson. But Sampson's tenure with the Magic is already over. Orlando then shipped him to the Bucks for the draft rights to '95 pick Rashard Griffith, who currently plays in Italy.
 

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Yeah, I think that was a bad trade for NY. Nene will likely end up being as good or almost as good as McDyess. Good deal for the Nuggets though since MCdyess was gonna bolt anyway, gives them a nice young core. I would worry more about Denver than I would the Knicks, but I still think the Bulls have a better chance than either of then at seeing the playoffs. Atlanta has a similar chance if they stay healthy.


Best trades of teh nigt: Denver, LA Lakers, and Memphis. Memphis will be awfully good with Person in the mix IMO.
 

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Speaking of trades, anyone know why the Clips didnt trade any of there picks?? or Why Andre Miller didnt go?? Any answers?:confused:
 

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This story should explain it

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-nbadraft27jun27.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

Forward-Thinking Clippers Pull Power Play
NBA draft: Unable to pull off a trade for Miller or Davis, they wind up with more young forwards in Wilcox and Ely ... for now.
By MARK HEISLER
Times Staff Writer

June 27 2002

All you Clipper fans who were going out to LAX to welcome Andre Miller, never mind.

The NBA draft went off largely as expected Wednesday, starting with the Houston Rockets' selection of 7-foot-5 Chinese center Yao Ming ... with one notable exception:

The widely reported trade between the Clippers and Cleveland Cavaliers fell apart.

Oh, and another deal the Clippers tried to put together for Baron Davis foundered, sources say, when Clipper owner Donald T. Sterling nixed it.

Under the proposed deal with Cleveland, the Clippers would have gotten the promising Miller for their No. 8 and 12 picks plus a player, but they couldn't agree on the player.

The Clippers offered Corey Maggette, then made Lamar Odom available late in the process.

The Cavaliers demanded Darius Miles. The Clippers refused, according to a source, on orders from Sterling.

Meanwhile, back at the draft, selections were going as expected—Yao to the Rockets at No. 1, Duke's Jay Williams to the Chicago Bulls at No. 2, Duke's Mike Dunleavy to the Golden State Warriors at No. 3, Kansas' Drew Gooden to the Memphis Grizzlies at No. 4, 6-11 Georgian wunderkind Nikoloz Tskitishvili to the Denver Nuggets at No. 5—until the Cavaliers' choice at No. 6.

With Miller, a free agent next summer, still on their roster, they drafted another point guard, Memphis State freshman Dajuan Wagner.

Then, minutes later, Clipper sources say, the Cavaliers called them back just as they were turning in their No. 8 pick—offering to make the deal for Odom if the Clippers would draft Caron Butler for them and give them No. 12.

However, the Clippers had already phoned in their selection to league officials in New York—Maryland power forward Chris Wilcox—making it official.

The Clippers then spent a feverish 10 minutes, calling the Phoenix Suns, who were drafting No. 9, and the Miami Heat, drafting No. 10, trying to trade Wilcox for either pick so they could take Butler.

The Suns had already turned in their pick, high school star Amare Stoudemire.

Heat Coach Pat Riley, who had said taking Butler would be a "no-brainer" if he fell that far, then grabbed the Connecticut standout.

Just to round out their day, the Clippers also tried to get Davis, but that didn't work, either. The New Orleans Hornets were willing to do it for the two Clipper picks plus Odom, but the Clippers turned them down ... on orders from Sterling, sources said.

So, the Clippers wound up with Wilcox, one of the draft's highest-rated power forwards, and Fresno State's 6-9 Melvin Ely at No. 12, another promising young big man ... who doesn't figure to play much, either, assuming he or Wilcox stays with the Clippers.

This left a flummoxed Elgin Baylor, the Clippers' general manager, to explain what he was now going to do with Wilcox, Ely, Odom, Miles and Elton Brand at forward, not to mention swing men Corey Maggette and Quentin Richardson.

"If we had gone in any other direction, we'd have had a whole lot of people at that position too," Baylor said.

The Clippers have plenty of big men, assuming they retain center Michael Olowokandi, who is a year away from free agency. They have the planet's biggest collection of forwards and shooting guards. However they're thin at point guard with last season's starter, Jeff McInnis, not expected to be re-signed, leaving only Keyon Dooling, who sat out most of last season because of an ankle injury, 5-6 Earl Boykins and soon-to-be signed European star Marko Jaric.

Equally flummoxed Coach Alvin Gentry, asked to assess the point guard situation, tried a diversionary maneuver:

"Well," Gentry said, "we're going to be good. It would be great to get a great point guard, but everything isn't over.... We'll find a way to make that position work."

Indeed, the Cavaliers were still calling the Clippers on Wednesday night ... and Davis reportedly has told the Hornets he won't re-sign ... so stay tuned.

Wednesday's notable winners include the Rockets, who wound up with Yao and promising European forward, Bostjan Nochbar, whom they took at No. 15.

The Bulls got Williams, generally considered to be the best bet to have an immediate impact.

The Nuggets wound up with two of the most intriguing prospects in the draft, Tskitishivili and 6-9, 250-pound Nene Hilario, and former Knicks Marcus Camby and Mark Jackson.

Then there were the Knicks, who decided they couldn't wait for the 19-year-old Hilario to develop, and traded the pick (and Camby and Jackson) for Antonio McDyess and a low first-round pick that turned out to be Illinois point guard Frank Wiliams.
If you want other stories on this topic, search the Archives at latimes.com/archives. For information about reprinting this article, go to www.lats.com/rights.
 

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Clips screwed themselves over...LOL

quite a quandry they're in now... i think they might end up trading Brand. he really is the most valuable player they've got, and seeing as how they have this overabundance of talent at the 4, they'd be dealing from a position of weakness... if some team wants to relieve the Clips burden - they could be in position to take Brand away from them

yeah, i know --- it's too soon, and sounds too far fetched, but i think it's a real possibility
 

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They have absolutely NO bargaining leverage now. They are probably gonna get fleeced in any deal they do.....
 

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Originally posted by Showtyme
Hawks make Dickau the starting PG. Terry moves to SG.

Dickau
Terry
Demarr Johnson
Shareef
Ratliff

and look at the depth

Toni Kukoc
Nazr Mohammed
Jacque Vaughn
Dion Glover
Leon Smith
Alan Henderson
Hanno Mottola

These are good players. This is a good team. They will make the playoffs.

But they won't be champs anytime soon.
There's a lot of firepower there, however, where is the defense? That's a short backcourt and soft frontline. Theo better be ready to block about 9 shots per game.
 
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