It's not too complicated. He said he wasn't just basing it off of this season, meaning probably their careers. Vince in his first 3 years easily dominates Wade and his first 3 years. You can say Wade got further in the playoffs blah yada....But Carter got to the 2nd round literally by himself and was 2 points away from the conf. finals and the finals. Unless Wade wins a championship this year, my mind won't change. 2. Carter 3. Wade . That and I still think Vince is a better overall player. He's got a better offensive game and is comparable on defense.Banjoriddim said:
Top 10 shooting guards in the league
With the emergence of young players in the league I need a consensus of who the people of bb.net consider to be the top 10 players in the league at the shooting guard position injuries notwithstanding.
1. Kobe Bryant, LA Lakers
2. Dwayne Wade, Miami Heat
3. Allen Iverson, Philadelphia 76ers
4. Vince Carter, New Jersey Nets
5. Ray Allen, Seattle Sonics
6. Joe Johnson, Atlanta Hawks
7. Jason Richardson, Golden State Warriors
8. Richard Hamilton, Detroit Pistons
9. Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs
10. Michael Redd, Milwaukee Bucks
1. Kobe Bryant, LA Lakers
2. Dwayne Wade, Miami Heat
3. Allen Iverson, Philadelphia 76ers
4. Vince Carter, New Jersey Nets
5. Ray Allen, Seattle Sonics
6. Joe Johnson, Atlanta Hawks
7. Jason Richardson, Golden State Warriors
8. Richard Hamilton, Detroit Pistons
9. Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs
10. Michael Redd, Milwaukee Bucks
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Re: Top 10 shooting guards in hte league
I just did my ratings based on who I would want playing shooting guard for my team. I would rather have Ginobili over the guys below him on my list. Feel free to disagree, I know many do. That's why we all get to make lists of our own.
It is just one game, but whenever I think of Joe Johnson and Manu Ginobili, I think of how Manu absolutely abused him in that 48 point game Manu had last season, where the Spurs made a 18 point come back in the 4th quarter.VC_15 said:Yeh, but still i don't think he should be that low anyways. How come you have manu that high? what did he do this year? i don't think he's better than J-rich or JJ.
I just did my ratings based on who I would want playing shooting guard for my team. I would rather have Ginobili over the guys below him on my list. Feel free to disagree, I know many do. That's why we all get to make lists of our own.
Injuries notwithstanding, and not only counting this season, this is who I would pick at shooting guard if I were building a team.
1) Dwyane Wade
2) Joe Johnson
3) Mike Miller
4) Jason Richardson
5) Vince Carter
6) Ray Allen
7) Larry Hugues
8) Richard Hamilton
9) Michael Redd
10) Kobe Bryant(I hate him)
1) Dwyane Wade
2) Joe Johnson
3) Mike Miller
4) Jason Richardson
5) Vince Carter
6) Ray Allen
7) Larry Hugues
8) Richard Hamilton
9) Michael Redd
10) Kobe Bryant(I hate him)
Obviously if he's 10 on your list..bandits1 said:10) Kobe Bryant(I hate him)
even the haters would have to be reaching big time to do that.. let alone find 9 better at the Sg position!
I know, but that's how much I hate him. At least I'm being upfront about it. Talent-wise, he would be #2 on my list...rapist-wise, #1.Brian34Cook said:Obviously if he's 10 on your list..
even the haters would have to be reaching big time to do that.. let alone find 9 better at the Sg position!
1 D Wade
2 Kobe
3A.I he is still a shooting guard to me
4 Vince Carter
5 Ray Allen
6 Rip Hamilton
7 Manu Ginobili
8Jason Richardson
9 Michael Redd
10 Larry Hughes
2 Kobe
3A.I he is still a shooting guard to me
4 Vince Carter
5 Ray Allen
6 Rip Hamilton
7 Manu Ginobili
8Jason Richardson
9 Michael Redd
10 Larry Hughes
Can you explain how Mike Miller is better then Vince..............bandits1 said:Injuries notwithstanding, and not only counting this season, this is who I would pick at shooting guard if I were building a team.
1) Dwyane Wade
2) Joe Johnson
3) Mike Miller
4) Jason Richardson
5) Vince Carter
6) Ray Allen
7) Larry Hugues
8) Richard Hamilton
9) Michael Redd
10) Kobe Bryant(I hate him)
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Vince Carter
4. Ray Allen
5. Joe Johnson
6. Manu Ginobili
7. Rip Hamilton
8. Jason Richardson
9. Michael Redd
10. Larry Hughes
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Vince Carter
4. Ray Allen
5. Joe Johnson
6. Manu Ginobili
7. Rip Hamilton
8. Jason Richardson
9. Michael Redd
10. Larry Hughes
This guy is one of the best if u not the best of all time. He basically ignore all the facts, pure hate and the good thing is, he even admits he hates the guy.bandits1 said:I know, but that's how much I hate him. At least I'm being upfront about it. Talent-wise, he would be #2 on my list...rapist-wise, #1.
He was a much better poster than what I was when I was 13, I think that's his age at the moment.
- Kobe Bryant
- Allen Iverson
- Dwayne Wade
- Vince Carter
- Ray Allen
- Richard Hamilton
- Joe Johnson
- Jason Richardson
- Michael Redd
- Ricky Davis
Not just based on this season.
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Allen Iverson
4. Vince Carter
5. Ray Allen
6. Richard Hamilton
7. Joe Johnson
8. Jason Richardson
9. Manu Ginobili
10. Michael Redd
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Allen Iverson
4. Vince Carter
5. Ray Allen
6. Richard Hamilton
7. Joe Johnson
8. Jason Richardson
9. Manu Ginobili
10. Michael Redd
Too subjective.bandits1 said:I know, but that's how much I hate him. At least I'm being upfront about it. Talent-wise, he would be #2 on my list...rapist-wise, #1.
This is a subjective list. If it wasn't - if there was a formula - everybody's list would be the same. I made my list based on who I would choose to build my team. I wouldn't choose Kobe because I doubt his character and commitment to team-play.John said:This guy is one of the best if u not the best of all time. He basically ignore all the facts, pure hate and the good thing is, he even admits he hates the guy.
He was a much better poster than what I was when I was 13, I think that's his age at the moment.
Bigger, no ego, and all things being equal(minutes) Mike Miller would be a better rebounder, nearly as good a passer, and Miller is a better overall shooter(check the percentages). They are both, however, injury-prone.thug_immortal8 said:Can you explain how Mike Miller is better then Vince..............
Ohhhh, in that caseBigger, no ego, and all things being equal(minutes) Mike Miller would be a better rebounder, nearly as good a passer, and Miller is a better overall shooter(check the percentages). They are both, however, injury-prone.
Matt Bonner >>> Mike Miller
Bonner is bigger, no ego, and all things being equal(minutes) Matt Bonner would be a better rebounder, nearly as good a passer, and Bonner is an equal overall shooter(.461 to .453 for Mike). Mike Miller is however injury prone
See how stupid that sounded. Don't compare player by stating if Player A played as many minutes as Player B then Player A would be better, thats stupid, it doens't take into account the fact that maybe somebody can't produce for an extended period of time.
Okay, you take Matt Bonner - I'll take Mike Miller. If it will calm you down and back you off from calling everything "stupid", I'll just take the stats that Miller currently gets with the minutes that he plays. He still shoots better percentages, can shoot it from deep, take it to the hole, looks for open teammates, and is a decent rebounder. I understand you think Vince Carter is better and I can understand why, I just don't happen to agree. Good enough?thug_immortal8 said:Ohhhh, in that case
Matt Bonner >>> Mike Miller
Bonner is bigger, no ego, and all things being equal(minutes) Matt Bonner would be a better rebounder, nearly as good a passer, and Bonner is an equal overall shooter(.461 to .453 for Mike). Mike Miller is however injury prone
See how stupid that sounded. Don't compare player by stating if Player A played as many minutes as Player B then Player A would be better, thats stupid, it doens't take into account the fact that maybe somebody can't produce for an extended period of time.
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Allen Iverson
4. Vince Carter
5. Ray Allen
6. Joe Johnson
7. Jason Richardson
8. Richard Hamilton
9. Michael Redd
10. Manu Ginobili
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Allen Iverson
4. Vince Carter
5. Ray Allen
6. Joe Johnson
7. Jason Richardson
8. Richard Hamilton
9. Michael Redd
10. Manu Ginobili
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Lebron James
3. Dwayne Wade
3b. Allen Iverson
5. Vince Carter
6. Ray Allen
7. Michael Redd
8. Jason Richardson
9. Joe Johnson
10. Manu Ginobili/Richard Hamilton
2. Lebron James
3. Dwayne Wade
3b. Allen Iverson
5. Vince Carter
6. Ray Allen
7. Michael Redd
8. Jason Richardson
9. Joe Johnson
10. Manu Ginobili/Richard Hamilton
kobe, jj, wade, pp.etc.
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