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5. When will these pundits begin to believe in Schmidt and the program (reloading, not rebuilding)? They should give him the benefit of the doubt. He's earned it.

I am a fan of Schmidt, but honestly, there is no real track record of reloading. There aren’t many, if any, A10 programs that can say that ... maybe VCU, but last year kind of shot that to hell.

UD was close but couldn’t maintain after Scoochie, Kyle Davis and Kendall Pollard’s class graduated. URI was right behind Dayton. We’ll see if Grant and Cox can move their programs forward, or for that matter Rhoades at VCU.

Next year is Schmidt’s opportunity to earn the benefit of the doubt. I posted this before but this league has too many coaches that earn a good reputation by making intermittent NCAA appearances with rosters loaded with seniors (in many cases 5th year seniors) or POY players that graduate.

Xavier and Temple reloaded year over year. Xavier reloaded coaches and won year over year. I don’t see any A10 programs “reloading”[/QUOTE]


Schmidt did it 2 years ago coming off an epic NCAA snub and losing 2 great players in Posley and Wright. Won 20 games including an 11-7 record in the A-10. That said, I expect people outside the A-10 to have this opinion based on what was lost from last year, but I expect them to be very competitive this season. Schmidt normally is loathe to trust new comers - something that frustrates many of us fans - but he will have little choice this year. This is his best recruiting class since he arrived - if he's truly building a program its the logical next step.
 

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With due respect to Schmidt, he has hardly proven that he has “reloaded”. Winning 20 games is no longer a benchmark- look at UD’s records over the past 20 years. Archie’s last four years was the only period with any sustainable NCAA success and it obviously didn’t last. I am hoping that Grant matches that level of success but I can’t say that UD reloads.

This league desperately needs the same two or three programs to be tournament teams year over year. There are enough good programs that have periodic NCAA success resulting in 4 or more bids. Now we don’t even have a program projected in the top 50
 

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Isnt this an argument of semantics? Call it reloading, call it sustaining, I dont give a shit. There isnt a Bona fan out there (outside of Bona5k) that doesnt think Schmidt has earned benefit of the doubt. The NCAA has made it nearly impossible for a non P5 school to get a bid (covered in my last post in the Around the League thread) so "settling" for bids every 2-4 years is not bad to me. Bonnies were on the radar at the beginning of the season, ransacked their non conference and then had 1 poor week in A10 and then had to be perfect the rest of the way to barely scratch out a bid. I will sit back and continue to enjoy the Schmidt era and the pundits/experts can suck rocks.
 

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Isnt this an argument of semantics? Call it reloading, call it sustaining, I dont give a shit. There isnt a Bona fan out there (outside of Bona5k) that doesnt think Schmidt has earned benefit of the doubt. The NCAA has made it nearly impossible for a non P5 school to get a bid (covered in my last post in the Around the League thread) so "settling" for bids every 2-4 years is not bad to me. Bonnies were on the radar at the beginning of the season, ransacked their non conference and then had 1 poor week in A10 and then had to be perfect the rest of the way to barely scratch out a bid. I will sit back and continue to enjoy the Schmidt era and the pundits/experts can suck rocks.
I am really too tired and had three Manhattans at dinner, but I’ll give this a try.

Schmidt took on a bad job and turned it into a good job. I suspect that his peers give him his due respect. But he hasn’t reloaded or sustained any history of NCAA appearances at St. Bonaventure. It is a fair question to ask why Martelli, Paulsen, Dambrot or McKillop get the benefit of the doubt when Schmidt doesn’t. Over the last 4 years they haven’t done more than Schmidt.

My point was that there are no friggin’ teams in this league any longer that have demonstrated any history of reloading. Instead of blaming scheduling and football this league needs to get its ass in gear - UD included.
 

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I am really too tired and had three Manhattans at dinner, but I’ll give this a try.

Schmidt took on a bad job and turned it into a good job. I suspect that his peers give him his due respect. But he hasn’t reloaded or sustained any history of NCAA appearances at St. Bonaventure. It is a fair question to ask why Martelli, Paulsen, Dambrot or McKillop get the benefit of the doubt when Schmidt doesn’t. Over the last 4 years they haven’t done more than Schmidt.

My point was that there are no friggin’ teams in this league any longer that have demonstrated any history of reloading. Instead of blaming scheduling and football this league needs to get its ass in gear - UD included.
This is correct. There is no longer a "flagship" in the league, the way Xavier and Temple were, or UMass in the 90s. A flagship is a school that even the P5 has to give respect to. We don't have that now. VCU was that for a minute, but not since Shaka left.

I don't see Dambrot getting any "benefit of the doubt". The Dukes are expected to show improvement, but no one is expecting them to contend for the top of the league. The three major magazines have them pegged at 7, 10, and 11. That's hardly getting the "benefit of the doubt".
 

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I am really too tired and had three Manhattans at dinner, but I’ll give this a try.

Schmidt took on a bad job and turned it into a good job. I suspect that his peers give him his due respect. But he hasn’t reloaded or sustained any history of NCAA appearances at St. Bonaventure. It is a fair question to ask why Martelli, Paulsen, Dambrot or McKillop get the benefit of the doubt when Schmidt doesn’t. Over the last 4 years they haven’t done more than Schmidt.

My point was that there are no friggin’ teams in this league any longer that have demonstrated any history of reloading. Instead of blaming scheduling and football this league needs to get its ass in gear - UD included.
In all fairness to Dunga, who made the first reference to Schmidt and reloading, it was in the context of Mr. Welser leaving them out of his top 144, not making the NCAA tournament. I don't think it's a stretch at all to say that he has done a fine job of reloading in that context. There was a time in the not so distant past when a #137 ranking would have been considered a success at Bona.
 

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It's amazing that we all give so much attention to a pretty meaningless and often ill-informed ranking. Of course I'm happy that someone somewhere recognized that UMass won't completely suck but I have no illusions about the authority of the opinion. The truth is that it's really hard to know how teams with a few key new pieces will perform.
 

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It's amazing that we all give so much attention to a pretty meaningless and often ill-informed ranking. Of course I'm happy that someone somewhere recognized that UMass won't completely suck but I have no illusions about the authority of the opinion. The truth is that it's really hard to know how teams with a few key new pieces will perform.
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FWIW. College Sports Madness has started the rollout of their top 144 men's bb teams for the upcoming season.I' ll update it once a week or sooner if an A-10 team is mentioned. They add a team daily. If any teams on the list are on your schedule, you can go to the link posted by Paulxu on page 1 of the thread to view the team's preview.

144-Grambling 143- Illinois 142-South Alabama 141-Wright State 140-NC Central 139- Grand Canyon 138-Temple 137-Stanford 136-Weber State 135-Wagner 134-Hartford 133-East Tennessee State 132-Utah 131-Radford 130-Tulsa 129- Northern Iowa 128-U VCU 127-UNLV 126-Troy 125-San Francisco 124-Kent State 123- Iowa State 122-Penn 121- UC Davis 120- Texas San Antonio 119- Lehigh 118- Charleston 117-No. Kentucky 116- Georgia Southern 115-St. Johns 114-Minnesota 113- So. Carolina 112-Valpo 111-Iona 110-Cal State Fullerton 109-Lipscomb 108- E. Michigan 107-Montana State 106-Vermont 105-Duquesne 104-Harvard 103-Stephen F Austin 102-Oregon State 101-San Diego State 100-Rider 99-Oklahoma State 98-Boise State 97-Western Kentucky 96-Ball State 95-Georgia 94-UCONN 93-Hofstra 92- Georgia State 91-Bradley 90-Wofford 89-Belmont 88-UMASS 87-Montana 86-Fresno State 85-Wake Forest 84-St. Marys College 83-William & Mary 82-New Mexico State 81-Memphis 80-Old Dominion 79-UNC Greensboro 78-URI 77-Arkansas 76-Southern Illinois 75-Louisiana 74-Buffalo 73-BYU 72-Penn State 71-Colorado 70-Georgetown 69-Northeastern 68-South Dakota State 67-San Diego State 66-Illinois State 65-SMU 64- Murray State 63-Saint Josephs 62-Providence 61-George Mason 60-Boston College 59-Marshall 58-Baylor 57-Davidson 56-Alabama 55-Seton Hall 54-Notre Dame 53-Saint Louis 52-Loyola of Chicago 51-Arizona State 50-Texas 49-Wisconsin 48-New Mexico 47-Texas A&M 46-Wichita State 45-Arizona 44-Missouri 43-Ohio State 42-Houston
 

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FWIW. College Sports Madness has started the rollout of their top 144 men's bb teams for the upcoming season.I' ll update it once a week or sooner if an A-10 team is mentioned. They add a team daily. If any teams on the list are on your schedule, you can go to the link posted by Paulxu on page 1 of the thread to view the team's preview.

144-Grambling 143- Illinois 142-South Alabama 141-Wright State 140-NC Central 139- Grand Canyon 138-Temple 137-Stanford 136-Weber State 135-Wagner 134-Hartford 133-East Tennessee State 132-Utah 131-Radford 130-Tulsa 129- Northern Iowa 128-U VCU 127-UNLV 126-Troy 125-San Francisco 124-Kent State 123- Iowa State 122-Penn 121- UC Davis 120- Texas San Antonio 119- Lehigh 118- Charleston 117-No. Kentucky 116- Georgia Southern 115-St. Johns 114-Minnesota 113- So. Carolina 112-Valpo 111-Iona 110-Cal State Fullerton 109-Lipscomb 108- E. Michigan 107-Montana State 106-Vermont 105-Duquesne 104-Harvard 103-Stephen F Austin 102-Oregon State 101-San Diego State 100-Rider 99-Oklahoma State 98-Boise State 97-Western Kentucky 96-Ball State 95-Georgia 94-UCONN 93-Hofstra 92- Georgia State 91-Bradley 90-Wofford 89-Belmont 88-UMASS 87-Montana 86-Fresno State 85-Wake Forest 84-St. Marys College 83-William & Mary 82-New Mexico State 81-Memphis 80-Old Dominion 79-UNC Greensboro 78-URI 77-Arkansas 76-Southern Illinois 75-Louisiana 74-Buffalo 73-BYU 72-Penn State 71-Colorado 70-Georgetown 69-Northeastern 68-South Dakota State 67-San Diego State 66-Illinois State 65-SMU 64- Murray State 63-Saint Josephs 62-Providence 61-George Mason 60-Boston College 59-Marshall 58-Baylor 57-Davidson 56-Alabama 55-Seton Hall 54-Notre Dame 53-Saint Louis 52-Loyola of Chicago 51-Arizona State 50-Texas 49-Wisconsin 48-New Mexico 47-Texas A&M 46-Wichita State 45-Arizona 44-Missouri 43-Ohio State 42-Houston 41-Oklahoma State 40-Vanderbilt 39-Nebraska 38-USC 37-UCF 36-Miami (Fl) 35-Butler 34-Louisville 33-Washington
 

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FWIW. College Sports Madness has started the rollout of their top 144 men's bb teams for the upcoming season.I' ll update it once a week or sooner if an A-10 team is mentioned. They add a team daily. If any teams on the list are on your schedule, you can go to the link posted by Paulxu on page 1 of the thread to view the team's preview.

144-Grambling 143- Illinois 142-South Alabama 141-Wright State 140-NC Central 139- Grand Canyon 138-Temple 137-Stanford 136-Weber State 135-Wagner 134-Hartford 133-East Tennessee State 132-Utah 131-Radford 130-Tulsa 129- Northern Iowa 128-U VCU 127-UNLV 126-Troy 125-San Francisco 124-Kent State 123- Iowa State 122-Penn 121- UC Davis 120- Texas San Antonio 119- Lehigh 118- Charleston 117-No. Kentucky 116- Georgia Southern 115-St. Johns 114-Minnesota 113- So. Carolina 112-Valpo 111-Iona 110-Cal State Fullerton 109-Lipscomb 108- E. Michigan 107-Montana State 106-Vermont 105-Duquesne 104-Harvard 103-Stephen F Austin 102-Oregon State 101-San Diego State 100-Rider 99-Oklahoma State 98-Boise State 97-Western Kentucky 96-Ball State 95-Georgia 94-UCONN 93-Hofstra 92- Georgia State 91-Bradley 90-Wofford 89-Belmont 88-UMASS 87-Montana 86-Fresno State 85-Wake Forest 84-St. Marys College 83-William & Mary 82-New Mexico State 81-Memphis 80-Old Dominion 79-UNC Greensboro 78-URI 77-Arkansas 76-Southern Illinois 75-Louisiana 74-Buffalo 73-BYU 72-Penn State 71-Colorado 70-Georgetown 69-Northeastern 68-South Dakota State 67-San Diego State 66-Illinois State 65-SMU 64- Murray State 63-Saint Josephs 62-Providence 61-George Mason 60-Boston College 59-Marshall 58-Baylor 57-Davidson 56-Alabama 55-Seton Hall 54-Notre Dame 53-Saint Louis 52-Loyola of Chicago 51-Arizona State 50-Texas 49-Wisconsin 48-New Mexico 47-Texas A&M 46-Wichita State 45-Arizona 44-Missouri 43-Ohio State 42-Houston 41-Oklahoma State 40-Vanderbilt 39-Nebraska 38-USC 37-UCF 36-Miami (Fl) 35-Butler 34-Louisville 33-Washington 32-NC State 31-Texas Tech 30-Purdue 29-Marquette 28-Florida 27- Former A-10 member 26-Cincy 25-Indiana
 
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