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i think milwaukee has a good 1-2 scoring punch in allen/robinson and a good third scorer in tim thomas, pryzbilla at the 5 and cassell running the point..
i think what the bucks need most is someone who is better then cassell at running the point, a pure pg who can pass and set his teammates up..
the first players who come to mind are jason kidd and andre miller.. i dont think the bucks could land kidd unless they give up either robinson and/or allen so i think the bucks acquiring andre miller would be a bigger improvement..
cleveland would be lookign for a veteran or two along with some youngsters or draft picks for miller so im thinking a trade something like this:
Bucks Get:
Miller
Ilgauskas
Jones
Cavs Get:
Cassell
Mason
Haislip
Grizzlies 2nd round pick in 03(bucks acquired in chris owens deal)
(if that is not enough a 1st round pick in 04 could be thrown in)
i think its a pretty fair trade for both deals seeing how their is a 90% chance miller is going to be dealt by the time his contract is up.. the cavs get rid of ilgauskas contract, which is very important.. ilgauskas is expendable because the cavs already have mihm and diop at the 5... jones is also expendable because he is the 3rd best 3 on the cavs (behind davis and murray)... mason didnt do a very good job playing for the bucks last year because of the difference between his style of play and the style of the bucks.. he is extremely extendable - 10 pts, 7 boards in 39 mpg compared to tim thomas' 12/4 in 27 mpg last season..
haislip and the pick are the main reason the cavs make this deal..
the cavs become transformed into a team that will contend for the playoffs this year and in the future wiht this trade..
so the bucks lineup would be something like this
Pg - Andre Miller - with miller you have a technical point guard who can see the court and has picture perfect fundamentals.. he doesnt have the ability to dominate/take over a game like cassell does, but he is a much better set-up man and he makes his teammates much better..i think his style of play is a perfect match for the style of his teammates..
Sg - Ray Allen - great athleticism, one of the best perimeter shooters in the league..great jump shot, and doesnt have very many weaknesses.. gets his share of boards/assist/steals.. one of the things i think he doesnt do enough is drive.. i think he has the speed/quickness to drive by 90% of players in the league, but instead he chooses to shoot the jumper/pull up.. if he drove more he could raise his shooting percentage, increase his assists and get more open looks because the defense would be forced to play him a little looser or double on him when he decides to drive....
Sf - Tim Thomas - great athleticism, great shooter for a player his height, great coordination for his height.. could be an elite player in the league if he played to his potential.. he has all the tools..great driving, great 3pt shooting, good vert.. lacks a midrange game imo, but none the less his stats are not even close to what he could get..i think he could have a breakout season similar to the one jalen rose had in 99-00 after becoming a starter and getting minutes.. in 98-99 rose was putting up similar numbers to what thomas got last season..if he gets minutes expect thomas to get numbers similar to what rose got in 99-00 with more rebounds and less assists..
Pf - Glenn Robinson - Not listed as a pf, has played sf his whole career but i think his transition to pf would be a smooth one.. he has the strength to play post defense, as well as post up most pfs.. he has the quickness to get by most pfs, and create open shots for himself.. bringing other pfs outside he could not only create his own shots, but he could also open up the inside so his teammates would have an open lane.. robinsons scoring avg would raise 3 or 4 pts imo and his rpg would go up by about 2-3 per game
C- joel pryzbilla - was a starter last game but had limited minutes..his nnumbers werent great but look for great improvements in his ppg, rpg and bpg.. hes a big inside presence and has good timing on defense.. his whole purpose as a starter would be to work hard inside, grab some boards, and get a couple of putbacks pergame.. i expect stats something like:6 pts, 10 boards, 3.5 bpg from him next season..
bench: the bucks bench isnt the greatest bench, but with the additions of ilgauskas and jones to a group of players including
jason caffey, ronald murray, dan gadzuric, greg anthony and rafer alston the bucks should have a stable bench.. the biggest contributors off the bench would be michael redd, jones and ilgauskas with redd being the main scorer and 6th man, with jones being the #2 option, and ilgauskas would be switching between backup pf/c and be the main rebounder off the bench..
what do you guys think?
i might have overlooked something, im not sure...but i think the trade is pretty even and i think the bucks would be a contender for eastern conference champs next year..
i think what the bucks need most is someone who is better then cassell at running the point, a pure pg who can pass and set his teammates up..
the first players who come to mind are jason kidd and andre miller.. i dont think the bucks could land kidd unless they give up either robinson and/or allen so i think the bucks acquiring andre miller would be a bigger improvement..
cleveland would be lookign for a veteran or two along with some youngsters or draft picks for miller so im thinking a trade something like this:
Bucks Get:
Miller
Ilgauskas
Jones
Cavs Get:
Cassell
Mason
Haislip
Grizzlies 2nd round pick in 03(bucks acquired in chris owens deal)
(if that is not enough a 1st round pick in 04 could be thrown in)
i think its a pretty fair trade for both deals seeing how their is a 90% chance miller is going to be dealt by the time his contract is up.. the cavs get rid of ilgauskas contract, which is very important.. ilgauskas is expendable because the cavs already have mihm and diop at the 5... jones is also expendable because he is the 3rd best 3 on the cavs (behind davis and murray)... mason didnt do a very good job playing for the bucks last year because of the difference between his style of play and the style of the bucks.. he is extremely extendable - 10 pts, 7 boards in 39 mpg compared to tim thomas' 12/4 in 27 mpg last season..
haislip and the pick are the main reason the cavs make this deal..
the cavs become transformed into a team that will contend for the playoffs this year and in the future wiht this trade..
so the bucks lineup would be something like this
Pg - Andre Miller - with miller you have a technical point guard who can see the court and has picture perfect fundamentals.. he doesnt have the ability to dominate/take over a game like cassell does, but he is a much better set-up man and he makes his teammates much better..i think his style of play is a perfect match for the style of his teammates..
Sg - Ray Allen - great athleticism, one of the best perimeter shooters in the league..great jump shot, and doesnt have very many weaknesses.. gets his share of boards/assist/steals.. one of the things i think he doesnt do enough is drive.. i think he has the speed/quickness to drive by 90% of players in the league, but instead he chooses to shoot the jumper/pull up.. if he drove more he could raise his shooting percentage, increase his assists and get more open looks because the defense would be forced to play him a little looser or double on him when he decides to drive....
Sf - Tim Thomas - great athleticism, great shooter for a player his height, great coordination for his height.. could be an elite player in the league if he played to his potential.. he has all the tools..great driving, great 3pt shooting, good vert.. lacks a midrange game imo, but none the less his stats are not even close to what he could get..i think he could have a breakout season similar to the one jalen rose had in 99-00 after becoming a starter and getting minutes.. in 98-99 rose was putting up similar numbers to what thomas got last season..if he gets minutes expect thomas to get numbers similar to what rose got in 99-00 with more rebounds and less assists..
Pf - Glenn Robinson - Not listed as a pf, has played sf his whole career but i think his transition to pf would be a smooth one.. he has the strength to play post defense, as well as post up most pfs.. he has the quickness to get by most pfs, and create open shots for himself.. bringing other pfs outside he could not only create his own shots, but he could also open up the inside so his teammates would have an open lane.. robinsons scoring avg would raise 3 or 4 pts imo and his rpg would go up by about 2-3 per game
C- joel pryzbilla - was a starter last game but had limited minutes..his nnumbers werent great but look for great improvements in his ppg, rpg and bpg.. hes a big inside presence and has good timing on defense.. his whole purpose as a starter would be to work hard inside, grab some boards, and get a couple of putbacks pergame.. i expect stats something like:6 pts, 10 boards, 3.5 bpg from him next season..
bench: the bucks bench isnt the greatest bench, but with the additions of ilgauskas and jones to a group of players including
jason caffey, ronald murray, dan gadzuric, greg anthony and rafer alston the bucks should have a stable bench.. the biggest contributors off the bench would be michael redd, jones and ilgauskas with redd being the main scorer and 6th man, with jones being the #2 option, and ilgauskas would be switching between backup pf/c and be the main rebounder off the bench..
what do you guys think?
i might have overlooked something, im not sure...but i think the trade is pretty even and i think the bucks would be a contender for eastern conference champs next year..
