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The Clippers could easily get away with sticking Maggette in because next year Baron would walk away and NO would get nothing. We would also throw in Dooling and a future first round pick. That should give NO enough to part with their point guard. Do we get the better deal? Yes. But they have to make a deal or they get nothing. And Miles could easily lead the league in blocks. He anticipates well, and has a huge leaping ablility and wingspan. He will be playing smaller players if he plays at the 3 and will easily be able to block the smaller players shots. He is also a great help defender, and is fast enough to swoop in and block a shot before the player even knows what is going on. He blocked Shaq!
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No, Miles could not lead in blocks. Case closed. And as for the Maggette idea, your acting like LA is the only team that is trying to trade for Baron. There are tons of teams try to get him and Dre. The Pacers for one could offer up Tinsley (which they would) and some cap fillers for Baron and that in itself would make it a way better trade than trading for Maggette. If Miles or Odom isnt in the package, the deal isnt going down. Simple as that
No, Miles could not lead in blocks. Case closed. And as for the Maggette idea, your acting like LA is the only team that is trying to trade for Baron. There are tons of teams try to get him and Dre. The Pacers for one could offer up Tinsley (which they would) and some cap fillers for Baron and that in itself would make it a way better trade than trading for Maggette. If Miles or Odom isnt in the package, the deal isnt going down. Simple as that
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Maggette and Wilcox are better than Tinsley and "cap filler". And it iritates me that you say that there is no way Miles could lead the league in blocks but you give me no reasons why you think this. I gave legit points on why I think he could lead the league and you dissmiss it so fast?
miles has potential but how many years are you gonna wait its been 2yrs so far and will prob take few more yrs he isnt even starting many games still needs to work on jumper,he does have potential but if i can get a proven all-star i would deal him. the idea of maggette and dooling for bdavis,is crazy magette has been a journey man and doolong is getting injured and hasnt proven a thing in the league yet and you think hornets are gonna trade a proven all-star for that? even if they have to trade him b/c he wont resign, by trade deadline someone will definetly offer more than a maggette and dooling(even 1st rndr) clipps need to get going in playoffs b/c if they dont in the next 1-2 yrs you have many free agents who sterling wont pay for and then you'll loose them and be back to same old clipps
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The deal seems to be Maggette, Dooling, and Wilcox which makes this deal a little less one sided. And I think Sterling will bite the bullet and loosen the strings of his money bags. I think he will keep this team together.
I don't think that the Clippers can possibly get Baron Davis without giving up either Miles or Odom. I like the Clippers but I don't think the Hornets would accept any combination of MAggette, Dooling, and a rookie for one of the best point guards in the NBA even if he wont sign an extension.
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Miles will not develop into anything if he is playing behind Odom. He has way more potential than Odom. I say you send Odom and Wilcox to Cleveland, Cleveland sends dre miller to charlotte, and Charlotte sends Baron Davis to the Clippers
Once again, there is no leverage. The Clips ARE NOT the only team trying to nab either of those points. And I forgot this is the a clips board because I swear someone told me Maggette is better than Tinsley, thats almost as laughable as that trade. Just a quick question, how many triple double did Maggette have last season? Did he even get many double doubles? Tinsley had 2 tripple doubles and thats something Maggette probably wont do in his whole career, let alone one season. The thing some of you have to realize is that the reason the Clips are the front runners for the trade is only because of the fact the they could give Odom or Miles. Not because everyone is excited at the thought of finaly getting a franchise player like Maggette. If Odom or Miles doesnt go, another team will get Baron or Miller. Miles wont develop into the player he should if he plays behind Odom his whole career anyways, one should go, might as well get a star point in return
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I want to first of all say that Odom healthy and with or without drugs is better now than D Miles will ever be. I love D Miles and he's fairly nice, although Q is a little punk (they hand out at the Westwood JFD), but Darius isn't the player Lamar is. I'll admit Darius is more athletic but Lamar is better in every other facet, and about shotblocking, Lamar averages 1.8-2.2 when healthy and Darius averages 2.1, that's close enough but Darius has the habit of commiting to someone else's man and leaving his open while Lamar sticks to his man. But here's my trade idea:
(this takes into account Cleveland and NO's situation and that Miles IS more valuable than Dre)
L.A. trades: Darius Miles, Quenitn Richardson, Harold Jamison, Melvin Ely.
L.A. receives: Baron Davis, Jerome Moiso, Ricky Davis, DeSagana Diop, 2003 1st Pick from N.O.
N.O. trades: Baron Davis, Jerome Moiso, 2003 1st Pick.
N.O. receives: Andre Miller, Harold Jamison, Jumaine Jones.
Cleveland trades:Andre Miller,Ricky Davis,Jumaine Jones, DeSagana Diop.
Cleveland receives
arius Miles, Quentin Richardson, Melvin Ely.
this trade seems pretty fair, and although N.O. gives up a 2003 1st pick they get Jones, an under-rated athletic SF and they rid themselves of enough money to get under the threshold by swapping Moiso for Jamison (which is an irrelevant swap except for salaries). Cleveland gets what they want, and under the circumstances are willing to swap Q for Davis and some because Q might be more valuable and it keeps Q,Miles,Ely Chicago boys chemistry. The Clipps get their man BD, and Ricky Davis to trade or keep (but I think trading him allows Maggette to break out), and Moiso is generally irrelevant, and they also get a 03 1st which should be in the 12-20 range. On another slightly off topic comment, you'll hate me for saying this, but I think Maggette CAN be similar to Vince Carter but with better D if he's given the PT and shots as he will get from this trade... also keep in mind Carter averaged 16 points as a 22 year old rookie and Maggette is 22 right now. The Goods Rules all. Kandi can have 11 mil/year. and Brand follows The Goods. The Clipps should smell hardwood in late May.
(this takes into account Cleveland and NO's situation and that Miles IS more valuable than Dre)
L.A. trades: Darius Miles, Quenitn Richardson, Harold Jamison, Melvin Ely.
L.A. receives: Baron Davis, Jerome Moiso, Ricky Davis, DeSagana Diop, 2003 1st Pick from N.O.
N.O. trades: Baron Davis, Jerome Moiso, 2003 1st Pick.
N.O. receives: Andre Miller, Harold Jamison, Jumaine Jones.
Cleveland trades:Andre Miller,Ricky Davis,Jumaine Jones, DeSagana Diop.
Cleveland receives
arius Miles, Quentin Richardson, Melvin Ely.this trade seems pretty fair, and although N.O. gives up a 2003 1st pick they get Jones, an under-rated athletic SF and they rid themselves of enough money to get under the threshold by swapping Moiso for Jamison (which is an irrelevant swap except for salaries). Cleveland gets what they want, and under the circumstances are willing to swap Q for Davis and some because Q might be more valuable and it keeps Q,Miles,Ely Chicago boys chemistry. The Clipps get their man BD, and Ricky Davis to trade or keep (but I think trading him allows Maggette to break out), and Moiso is generally irrelevant, and they also get a 03 1st which should be in the 12-20 range. On another slightly off topic comment, you'll hate me for saying this, but I think Maggette CAN be similar to Vince Carter but with better D if he's given the PT and shots as he will get from this trade... also keep in mind Carter averaged 16 points as a 22 year old rookie and Maggette is 22 right now. The Goods Rules all. Kandi can have 11 mil/year. and Brand follows The Goods. The Clipps should smell hardwood in late May.
Sting are you serious? Maggette isnt that great, where did you guys get that idea from. He played from the bench because he couldnt beat out Pike. Now dont get me wrong, Pikes a good, reliable guy. But if you cant beat him out of the starting spot then how is he worth so much? The Cavs will laugh at that trade. As far a no one being able to offer a better trade, I already gave you one. Any team would rather have tinsley rather than maggette. When I asked how you guys can try to justify how Maggette is better I heard nothing. Because he isnt, plain and simple.
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Maggette wasn't competing for the starting SF spot last year, and on top of that he started more than 45 games at SF, Gentry has this funny idea that it would an insult to Q if Maggette got PT at SG so Maggette only played SF last year. Also I think, as I said a few posts ago, that Miles and Q will be shipped with Ely in a 3 way deal....and if given the PT Maggette WILL shine, he actually averaged more points,rebounds,and steals in head to head matchups against Kobe,Finley,Stackhouse,and others.
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