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I'm not reading a lot about NIL deals for guys going to the P5 teams.
Think they are getting some like the Miami kids?
Oh yes. Most boosters just aren’t dumb enough to talk about it publicly since their activity isn’t within the NIL “rules”. Lofton purportedly got $300K from Florida. Holmes $100K from ISU. I haven’t heard specifics on Osun or Welch, though.

It must be nice to cherry pick veterans off established teams’ rosters just because you have a willing booster(s). That’s the spirit of college athletics, right? Shit. Even the pro leagues don’t allow this nonsense.
 

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Oh yes. Most boosters just aren’t dumb enough to talk about it publicly since their activity isn’t within the NIL “rules”. Lofton purportedly got $300K from Florida. Holmes $100K from ISU. I haven’t heard specifics on Osun or Welch, though.

It must be nice to cherry pick veterans off established teams’ rosters just because you have a willing booster(s). That’s the spirit of college athletics, right? Shit. Even the pro leagues don’t allow this nonsense.
Someone mentioned to me a six figure deal for Ward to go to Iowa State. I did not believe them. I mean who in their right mind would do that. Ha!
 

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Qudus Wahab played a couple of seasons at Georgetown, and transferred to Maryland where he played this past season. Now, he is transferring back to the Hoyas. Does he have to sit a year, need a waiver or gets to play immediately because of the coaching change at Maryland? It seems to me you could solve some of the tampering by going back to the one year sit out rule and provide an exception to the rule if the head coach leaves the program.
 

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Qudus Wahab played a couple of seasons at Georgetown, and transferred to Maryland where he played this past season. Now, he is transferring back to the Hoyas. Does he have to sit a year, need a waiver or gets to play immediately because of the coaching change at Maryland? It seems to me you could solve some of the tampering by going back to the one year sit out rule and provide an exception to the rule if the head coach leaves the program.
Yep. This shit is illogical in almost every way.
 

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Chris Chavannes is the head BB coach at the Patrick School (formerly known as St. Patrick's in Hillside, NJ.). The basketball program has produced a number of high D1 players over the years.He put out the following info regarding players entering the portal and finding a new home.
370/698 freshmen 53%
217/435 sophs 49%
239/493 juniors 48%
1626 entered and only 50% have a new place to play
Certainly some more will find a home over the summer, and players like Lofton and Osunniyi would never have a problem, but still leaves several hundred players without a school, without a scholarship and credits short of a degree.
 

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This is the big crunch year, as a lot of guys are still wanting to use the bonus COVID year yet rosters have to get back down to 13 scholarships. Tough year of musical chairs for transfers and high schoolers alike...too many butts and not enough seats.
 

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Or MAYBE the goddamn leaders could have foreseen the mayhem and nefarious activities that would result from instant, unregulated rule changes like this?

Wait until people see how this transfer activity impacts players’ paths to graduation…
what could the leaders have done? Any regulation would be met with lawsuits and wailing and gnashing of teeth by Bilas and Co. This is what they wanted all along and now the only question is are they the dog that caught the car. Part of me wants to see all athletic scholarships gone and when that is announced the last line should be congrats Jay Bilas you win but 1000s of kids lose. See how they like that.
 

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Or MAYBE the goddamn leaders could have foreseen the mayhem and nefarious activities that would result from instant, unregulated rule changes like this?

Wait until people see how this transfer activity impacts players’ paths to graduation…
Yea that would have made the most sense but the NCAA buried their heads in the sand. There was a good article in the Athletic about how Shaheen warned them about this 10 years ago and tried to get them going in the right direction. Of course they force him out for such nonsense

I think what happened this year is all these players knew there was money out there so they all thought they were going to get theirs. Turns out there is only so much to go around.
 

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Many people predicted this would happen, including the NCAA. What no one says is how it could have stopped. The goal was always for players to be allowed to get paid as much money as possible by whoever was willing to pay. Nothing less was going to be accepted. And now here we are.
 

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what could the leaders have done? Any regulation would be met with lawsuits and wailing and gnashing of teeth by Bilas and Co. This is what they wanted all along and now the only question is are they the dog that caught the car. Part of me wants to see all athletic scholarships gone and when that is announced the last line should be congrats Jay Bilas you win but 1000s of kids lose. See how they like that.
One of the things about Bilas and others who thought scholarship athletes should be able to transfer like a 'regular' student that they avoided like the plague, was if we do that lets hold scholarship athletes to the same admission standards as the 'regular' students.
 

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One of the things about Bilas and others who thought scholarship athletes should be able to transfer like a 'regular' student that they avoided like the plague, was if we do that lets hold scholarship athletes to the same admission standards as the 'regular' students.
You've just identified the Patriot League. The Fieldhouse would be nice and cozy with the 1,800 of you who would show up for a game.
 

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You've just identified the Patriot League. The Fieldhouse would be nice and cozy with the 1,800 of you who would show up for a game.
Res, I'm not sure that would be a bad thing. Get away from the facilities and coaching salaries arms race. Perhaps 'regular' students would be saddled with a little less debt when they graduate. I don't think many fb or bb programs are profit centers for the institution they are associated with. As a taxpayer I would rather see some of my tax dollars going towards a scholarship for a student who had a 4.4 gpa in high school rather than someone who runs a 4.4 forty. The Patriot League and institutions like its members can still offer competitive and entertaining athletics.
 
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