[grizzoistight]

Did anyone see that he went off today in the summer league.. scoring 35 points on 4 for 8 from downtown..
this kid is going to average 20 a game as a rookie.. the cavs will still lose a lot.. but hes a stud!!!
Diop also has been playin better now that hes in shape
what do yall think of wags??

 

[Chops]

Where are you getting these stats from? They haven't put up the recap or the box score. Looks like Wagner got his points in garbage minutes as the Cavs lost to the Raptors 91-73....

 

[grizzoistight]

it was on nba.com the box score wasnt up yet though

 

[RollWithEm]

Wagner

I think summer leagues mean nothing! That being said, Allen Iverson and Dujuan Wagner are the same type of player. Dujuan does not have the quickness or imagination of Iverson, but he does understand what a good shot is earlier than AI ever did. I think it will be interesting to see if he can develop the in-between shots that Iverson now has to get over taller defenders.

Also, Iverson wasn't always as clutch as he is now. He has developed a killer instinct earlier than alot of guys. We will see if Wagner can do that. He will always score, but we will see if he is ever gets to be an effective player in the league.

 

[Cavsfan]

give love to diop too. he had 8 points 14 boards and 11 blocked shots hows that for a defensive presence

 

[thrice911]

wagner and Diop must have been the only players for the Cavs that showed up because they out up tremendous numbers but still lost by a ton.

 

[Cavsfan]

have you seen their roster everyone is a rookie carlos boozer is not playing yet and mihm and jones are on the roster but not playing to give the most time to diop and wagner so even though they are loosing the cavs main goal was to get diop and wagner lots of minutes so they are accomplishing their goal and any way its just the SL so it don't really matter who wins or loses

 

[Cavsfan]

heres who the cavs are playing with but scratch jones and mihm.

No. Player Pos. Ht. Wt. Birthdate Age College Pro. Exp.
23 Matt Barnes F 6-7 235 3/9/80 22 UCLA '02 R
17 Lubos Barton G-F 6-8 230 4/7/80 22 Valparaiso '02 R
1 Carlos Boozer F 6-9 258 11/20/81 20 Duke '03 R
52 DeSagana Diop C 7-0 300 1/30/82 20 Oak Hill Academy HS '01 1
8 Theo Dixon G-F 6-6 210 8/19/78 23 Cleveland State '02 R
13 Adam Harrington G 6-5 200 7/5/80 22 Auburn '02 R
33 Jumaine Jones G-F 6-8 218 2/10/79 23 Georgia '01 3
40 Lonnie Jones C 7-0 235 11/8/79 22 Ball State '02 R
5 Sean Kennedy G 6-2 182 9/21/79 22 Marist '02 R
6 Andre Laws G 6-1 190 9/20/80 21 San Diego '02 R
4 Chris Mihm F-C 7-0 265 7/16/79 22 Texas '01 2
41 Paul Shirley F 6-10 230 12/23/77 24 Iowa State '01 R
2 Dajuan Wagner G 6-2 200 2/4/83 19 Memphis '05 R

 

[Chops]

Toronto's roster isn't much to look at either.

 

[TheRifleman]

Wagner is too short to play the big guard spot. He'll get eaten up when he has to try to defend a big guard.

There is only one Iverson and Wagner isn't going to be another Iverson type of #2 guard. He reminds me of Shawn Respert - too short and not enough PG skills.

 

[Hawkeye Pierce]

wagner has got the beef that iverson doesnt though, so the bigger gurard will be taller but not always stronger.

 

[cmd34]

ouch! shawn respert? naaaaa, wags is a thousand times the ballhandler respert is and is a pretty creative player. respert was a shooting specialist who realized nba guards are much harder to shoot over than the kids at northwestern.

 

[raptors32]

Man, Wagner will succeed in the nba. More then people think anyways. Why?? because he's been groomed to play in the L. He can and probably will run the point. I watched him abit in college and he was running point when I saw, and he did an amazing job. This is only the first little stat (35 pts) in a list of many more to come.

If he's not on your team, diss his size. Say he can't play point, or is too short to play sg. Maybe it will fuel the fire, but I'd atleast give him his shot before he is made out to be "the next shawn respert" . He will be an allstar.

 

[blove84]

I agree...he will probably be the rookie of the year. He wiil get the most minutes out of any rookie...He will be an all-star, once he learns the ropes. He will never be like shawn respert, he is much stronger, a better ball-habdler, and a WAY better finisher. That is were he gets his comparison to Iverson, the way he finishes....I am going to love to see him and Iverson go at each other next year!!!!

 

[Bean the pimp]

i say he gon lead the league in scoring his rookie year...........yes i said it first, mark my words

 

[MG]

No doubt Wags and JWill shall both be on the all-rookie first team unless something really unexpected happens. Not a surprise since they were the only guards picked in the lottery and will both get alot of PT.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Wags lead the Cavs in scoring this year...almost expect it. Even so,,Cleveland does not have enough talent to even think about contending for a playoff spot even if they do keep Dre Miller.

 

[Hawkeye Pierce]

ricky davis should lead the cavs in scoring if he gets the minutes, hes got 20ppg potential and he showed it at the end of last year.

 

[Tom]

He will score alot of points and his team will hate him and not win much. He reminds me of marbury.

 

[Damian Necronamous]

Casey Jacobsen also scored 35 points in the Summer League. SL doesn't mean anything, I don't think he'll average 20 ppg as a Rookie. But I do think he'll get 16 or 17.

 

[TheRifleman]

From the looks of it, maybe I was hasty in saying another "Shawn Respert" type.

It's just that the summer league is not the NBA and I don't put a lot of stock into what a player does in the SL unless he scores 35+ in every game - along with either a lot of assists or a lot of rebounds. I will wait and watch him during the season before I make any kind of judgment on his NBA IQ.