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http://www.indystar.com/article/201...sider-They-re-having-great-season-where-fans-

The Indiana Pacers are sitting atop the Central Division. The New York Knicks are looking over their shoulders at the Pacers, who are just 1 1/2 games back for the second seed in the Eastern Conference.

The Pacers have been model citizens on and off the court. Three players -- Roy Hibbert, George Hill and Paul George -- purchased season tickets for select fans to attend every home game for free.

But where are the paying customers?

Fans said they wouldn't return until there was both a competitive team on the court and a roster of players whose off-court behavior did not include visits to strip clubs.

The Pacers followed suit by cleaning house and putting together a team the city would embrace.

The fans?

The Pacers are still waiting on them to hold up their end of the bargain.

Look around Bankers Life Fieldhouse when teams other than Miami, Chicago or the Los Angeles Lakers are in town.

There are lots of empty green seats in the building even though the Pacers bring a 15-game home winning streak into Friday's game with Toronto.

About the only green owner Herb Simon wants to see is the kind with Ulysses S. Grant and Benjamin Franklin on it.

The slogan goes, "In 49 states, it's just basketball. But this is Indiana." That must be a reference to the Indiana Hoosiers rather than the Pacers, who continue to be among the NBA bottom feeders in attendance. They are currently 26th in the NBA, averaging 14,592 fans in a building that seats 18,165.

The Pacers have had just four sellouts this season; opening night, both Miami games and against Chicago earlier this week.

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"It's very disappointing," Pacers guard and Indianapolis-native George Hill said. "The fans show up when we play the marquee teams, but they show up wearing the marquee team's clothes. We feed off them. As much as we can get people there, the better off we're going to be."

Fans had every right to stay from the fieldhouse during what Larry Bird admitted was a long rebuilding period. The Pacers were an embarrassment at times to the city. The problems ran the gamut from guns and strip clubs to hanging with people wanted on murder charges.

Having to call Pacers media relations guru David Benner during the early morning hours after the Pacers had yet another run-in with the law got old pretty quick.

Those days have become distant memories.

The Pacers are headed back to the playoffs for the third straight season with players who care about the community.

"That's what bothers me," Hill said. "We're doing the right thing. We're staying out of trouble, being positive role models in the community. Just like when we're out in public, fans want autographs and pictures. What do we get out the deal?"

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"I would love to go to more games, but would prefer not to sit in the balcony," Eric O'Hair of Crawfordsville, Ind., wrote in an email. "The club level seems too overpriced and the Pacers should realize this by now. We live in a 'blue-collar state' and they are charging 'white-collar prices.' The business formula is simple and they are not following it. If (they) can't sell the tickets, drop the prices."

Renny Harrison, owner of FanFare tickets in Carmel, said he usually has dirt cheap tickets for sale when the Pacers aren't playing one of the league's heavyweight teams.

There are upper-level tickets starting at $5 for the Feb. 13 game against Charlotte. Lower level tickets are available for as low as $12.

"Unfortunately when it's a week night game against a team that nobody cares about, people tend not to go," Harrison said. "We would love to sell more tickets just like the Pacers would love to have more people show up. It's unfortunate."

The Colts season is over. IU, Butler and Purdue only play a couple of times a week

It's time to get on the bus.

The Pacers have done their job.

Now it's up to the fans to get on, too.
Article comments from "average" Indianpolis sports fans that are quite interesting.

Conor Lee-"I love the Pacers and the NBA game. But many old-school fans are turned off by the NBA in general. I have a feeling unless the Pacers land a marquee player, or make a seriously deep playoff run (Finals?), the fans will never return to those empty seats. Indiana fans like basketball, just not the NBA's version of basketball."

Greg Candler-"With me it's not the Pacer's fault; it's th NBA in general. I used to go to a couple of dozen games a season (with the playoffs included) but as time passed, the personalities of the players became "thuggish", tough guy, and elitist in nature. Shoot, Reggie was that way, but the rest of the team from that era felt family-accessible to the community. I used to take the the family to the BEST Locker Room rstaurant after the gaes and the kids woud meet an talk to Rik Smits, Dale Davis, Antonio Davis, Mark Jackson, Isiah Thomas and Larry Bird to name the poular ones. Nice guys; not tough guys. Call me an old geezer, but I just do not care for the product. And say what you will, I know a ton of people who agree with me."

Scott Pletcher- "I agree Greg... I stopped following the NBA about 10 years ago. The 'hip-hop' nature of the league, as it is now, is not entertaining to me. I know that NBA players are great athletes and can do incredible things on the court but I just don't see a lot of 'basketball' being played. It's all "look at me", one-on-one, isolation skills that get old really fast. I'll take college hoops any day of the week over the NBA. (Although College is starting to show signs of following in the NBAs footsteps) I still love the Pacers and hope they do well... just not going to go see any NBA games anytime soon."
I'm not sure if Indy deserves a team anymore, people around here are so out of touch with the NBA today.
 

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I feel about the same as the guy from Crawfordsville. I would love to attend more Pacer games, but if I'm going to spend $30+ in gas, $10 for parking, and then even more money for beer/food, it's too much for me. Balcony seats are ok, and probably something I'd be more in to if I lived closer to Indianapolis, but you pretty much jump from $20-40 and barely being able to see, to $120 for club. For many people, that's not a big difference, but for the 16-25 age group, it really is.

And yes, most people from Indiana either like the Bulls more (north side) or college basketball more (Northern Indianapolis to Louisville) than the Pacers.
 

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Well I'm not from Indiana so I don't know everything, but I don't think it's fair to call Indiana the basketball state when their professional team is ranked 26th in the league for attendance. I realize the Hoosiers will always be the love of the state and I get that, but this team deserves a lot more love than what it gets.
 

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I feel about the same as the guy from Crawfordsville. I would love to attend more Pacer games, but if I'm going to spend $30+ in gas, $10 for parking, and then even more money for beer/food, it's too much for me. Balcony seats are ok, and probably something I'd be more in to if I lived closer to Indianapolis, but you pretty much jump from $20-40 and barely being able to see, to $120 for club. For many people, that's not a big difference, but for the 16-25 age group, it really is.

And yes, most people from Indiana either like the Bulls more (north side) or college basketball more (Northern Indianapolis to Louisville) than the Pacers.
Buy balcony, and move after halftime. I did that earlier this year no problem and picked up a spot right by Area 55.

Or buy tickets from stubhub / ticketsnow.com

Don't go to ticketmaster.com and you won't have to pay $120, simple as that. I know of a parking place with a 5 minute walk that is normally $5. Eat before you go (why would you want that food anyway?), drink before you go. Carry a flask.

Also two for Tuesdays are great. Two tickets for the price of one.
 

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I'm about an hour away, maybe 50 miles? I usually catch a preseason game and then 1-2 regular season games/year. I have IU playing a mile from where I live, though, so if I want to watch live basketball, that's much more convenient.
 

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I'm about an hour away, maybe 50 miles? I usually catch a preseason game and then 1-2 regular season games/year. I have IU playing a mile from where I live, though, so if I want to watch live basketball, that's much more convenient.
For being an hour away I'd say that's pretty good. What are Hoosiers games like and how much do those tickets usually go for? It's on my bucket list to go down to Indiana to see a Hoosiers and a Pacers game.


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For being an hour away I'd say that's pretty good. What are Hoosiers games like and how much do those tickets usually go for? It's on my bucket list to go down to Indiana to see a Hoosiers and a Pacers game.


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Hoosier games are nuts. Assembly Hall is an old arena that keeps sound in very well, which makes it one of the loudest places in the country. The atmosphere is about 10 times as engaging as a professional game, and the student section is about 100 times as engaging.

Tickets are complicated. Student GA tickets are $10, I believe, to start the year (regular from 20-25 I think?), but with IU's recent success, they sell out fast. Most people buy out the tickets early and sell them for $50-$2000, depending on the seat and the game.
 

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For being an hour away I'd say that's pretty good. What are Hoosiers games like and how much do those tickets usually go for? It's on my bucket list to go down to Indiana to see a Hoosiers and a Pacers game.


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Hopefully R-Star is making bank right now so he can visit during the Playoffs.

We should all plan a get together and go to a game.
 

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Hoosier games are nuts. Assembly Hall is an old arena that keeps sound in very well, which makes it one of the loudest places in the country. The atmosphere is about 10 times as engaging as a professional game, and the student section is about 100 times as engaging.

Tickets are complicated. Student GA tickets are $10, I believe, to start the year (regular from 20-25 I think?), but with IU's recent success, they sell out fast. Most people buy out the tickets early and sell them for $50-$2000, depending on the seat and the game.
I know someone with season tickets so she gave me a couple to the Jacksonville game over break. It was pretty good, but Zellar didn't play stellar and there wasn't much of a college crowd. Experiencing the intro was still spectacular though.
 

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Good showing tonight from the fans. 16,000+ and it was loud.

We have had good attendance on Friday and Saturday nights this year. I suspect when the weather gets warmer, Granger comes back, and we get closer to the Playoffs, attendance will be better.
 
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