hihofink said:Collins lacks three qualities that I would want in a starting PF.
First, he struggles to finish at the rim. No disrespect, but he may be the most blocked player in the league. When he goes up for a layup in traffic its a bonus if the basketball goes in the hoop. Now the Nets do not need a scorer from their 4, but that 4 needs to be able to finish at the rim....especially with great passers in Carter and Kidd.
Secondly, although Collins does box out, he does not go up and grab rebounds.....I forget the quote that K-Mart once said, but he refered to something charles barkley once told him. Not to just box out, but go up and grab the basketball before anyone else.
Krstic and Collins may be the worst rebounding PF/C combination...and although Collins boxes out very well, if Krstic is the starting center, then the starting PF must be able to go up and grab rebounds. 6.5 boards per game from the PF slot is not good enough if the starting center only grabs 6 boards too.
Lastly, Collins needs to be able to stick that 15 jump shot consistantly....and although he has improved it, he has not been consistant this season.
On a side note, Collins defense is becoming overated by Nets fan. He is a very good defender. He is not great. His defense is not the level of K-mart. So defense from the PF position can be improved. Collins does not deserve defensive honors. Duncan, Wallace, Wallace, K-mart, Garnett, Okafor, Camby, Kirilenko, Murphy are just the PF off the top of my head that are better defenders than Collins....
so although a very good defender. It is still a quality that could possibly be upgraded in the offeseason.
Solid points, all of them. Not sure about Murphy, though. And Collins is a different type of defender. He relies on positioning, while most of the above rely on athleticism. So he does more with his tools than most.
Some people will take your list and just say "He sucks" though. Some of us know that there's a lot more to the game of basketball than the above, and that it's those things, and his experience with the Nets system that give him and advantage over most big men that you could bring in next season. Not to mention that he is still a very good defender that has knocked some big names off their game this season.