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Which team do you think had the best draft? Here's a look at the players a few teams acquired on draft night. You tell me which team you feel benefitted the most from draft night and why.

Chicago: Jay Williams, Roger Mason Jr., Lonny Baxter

Cleveland: Dajuan Wagner, Carlos Boozer, Matt Barnes

Golden State: Mike Dunleavy Jr., Jiri Welsch, Steve Logan

Washington: Jared Jeffries, Juan Dixon, Rod Grizzard, Juan Carlos Navarro

Miami: Caron Butler, Rasual Butler

Denver: Nikoloz Tskitishvili, Nene Hilario, Vincent Yarbrough, Marcus Camby, Mark Jackson

New York: Antonio McDyess, Frank Williams, Milos Vujanic

Houston: Yao Ming, Bostjan Nachbar, Tito Maddox

Phoenix: Amare Stoudemire, Casey Jacobsen
 

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Wizards...

They address thier needs at SF and PG(Jeffries, Navarro) and get 2 great players(Dixon, Grizzard). Jared, Juan, and Rod can all contribute right away to the Wizards and so could Navarro, but I don't know if he can come over thi year. They improve greatly.

C-Jhadi White/Brendan Haywood
PF-Christian Leattner/Kwame Brown
SF-Jared Jeffries/Rod Grizzard
SG-Richard Hamilton/Juan Dixon
PG-Chris Whitney/Juan Carlos Navarro
 

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Its a tie between three teams: Bulls, Houston, and Heat.

Bulls get the point gaurd and leadership they need in Williams and Baxter and also get some good depth with Mason.

Houston fills their two biggest needs very well in Nachbar and Ming. The Rockets needed a Center, and while Ming will probably not be dominant, he will at least block some shots, score some points and get rebounds. He is someone who can just play that position. Nachbar is the 3rd best SF behind Dunleavy and Butler IMO.

Miami got a top three talent with the 10 pick. Nuff said.
 

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nuggets and wizards

i think the nugs had the best draft, and made out like bandits with that trade. some may disagree, but i don't think mcdyess was worth that much, especially just coming off an injury. They got both the players they wanted(skita and hilario) along with camby and jackson who help their other needs.

the wizards probably got the steal of the draft with gizzard in the second round, and along with jeffries, navarro and dixon, make them a much much better team.

i am a cavs fan and was heartbroken when they passed up butler, that kid is gonna be a star. wagner is in no way what we needed. he can't play point(teams with shoot first point guards never win), we have davis at the 2, no need for him there, and apparently andre miller is staying put for the time being. this pick along with the clips taking 2 pf's are the most confusing for me. they must not be planning on resigning brand.
 

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I say the wizards and the Nuggets. They improved their teams significantly with talent that will sure help this year, or possibly even next year....we'll see what they do in summer leagues etc
 

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Denver and Cleveland.

The Nuggets got a big, much needed face lift and begin the rebuilding process again.

Cleveland brings in a much needed scorer and get a steal with Boozer in the 2nd round.
 

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Denver and Cleveland.

The Nuggets got a big, much needed face lift and begin the rebuilding process again.

Cleveland brings in a much needed scorer and get a steal with Boozer in the 2nd round.
oh ya i forgot about cleveland...do you think boozer will play a role with cleveland this year? or will they send him overseas?

wagner is good i forgot about boozer though....wow
 

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I would say Chicago, Denver, Cleveland and Golden State

Chicago can have a starting lineup of Chandler, Curry, Rose, Mason Jr, and Williams next year. It' a young lineup, but in a few years, it could get them to the Playoffs.

Denver got some great young international talent. Both of those guys (Hilario, Skit) are great players, but the Nuggets will probably start Camby and Howard, and if they don't trade Posey, they might both come off of the bench. Vincent Yarbrough gives them another good player off of the bench and Mark Jackson gives them a good back-up PG.

I liked Cleveland's draft because they got a great future PG in Wagner. Yes he can play PG, scouts are very impressed at how well he adapted to the position in the pre-draft camps. Matt Barnes could come off of the bench, or even start for the Cavs and give some more energy to the lineup. And they got Boozer the Bruiser, Carlos could give them a good role-playing PF off of the bench, or maybe in the starting loineup.

Golden State drafted a pure shooter in Dunleavy, I don't see him being a superstar, but he could be a Sczcerbiak type player. Camping around the three point line and driving to the basket when he can. I haven't seen Jiri Welsch play, so I can't really comment. But,Steve Logan was a big steal for them. He could start at PG if they trade Larry Hughes. Logan gets his teammates involved (5apg at Cincinnati), and can score for himself (22ppg at Cincinnati).

Washington would be 5th on my list, only because I think at #17, they might have been able to get a taller player that is just as good as Juan Dixon (Kareem Rush).
 

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I would say Chicago, Denver, Cleveland and Golden State

Chicago can have a starting lineup of Chandler, Curry, Rose, Mason Jr, and Williams next year. It' a young lineup, but in a few years, it could get them to the Playoffs.

Denver got some great young international talent. Both of those guys (Hilario, Skit) might come off of the bench though, because they'll probably start Camby and Howard, and if they don't trade Posey, they might both come off of the bench. Vincent Yarbrough gives them another good player off of the bench and Mark Jackson gives them a good back-up PG.

I liked Cleveland's draft because they got a great future PG in Wagner. Yes he can play PG, scouts are very impressed at how well he adapted to the position in the pre-draft camps. Matt Barnes could come off of the bench, or even start for the Cavs and give some more energy to the lineup. And they got Boozer the Bruiser, Carlos could give them a good role-playing PF off of the bench, or maybe in the starting loineup.

Golden State drafted a pure shooter in Dunleavy, I don't see him being a superstar, but he could be a Sczcerbiak type player. Camping around the three point line and driving to the basket when he can. I haven't seen Jiri Welsch play, so I can't really comment. But,Steve Logan was a big steal for them. He could start at PG if they trade Larry Hughes. Logan gets his teammates involved (5apg at Cincinnati), and can score for himself (22ppg at Cincinnati).

Washington would be 5th on my list, only because I think at #17, they might have been able to get a taller player that is just as good as Juan Dixon (Kareem Rush).
i agree with all yours points....nice job
 

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Washington?

At 11 they drafted a good player, but Jeffries is a tweener and he is too thin to play PF right now. He doesn't have the ball skills to play 3 for maybe a few years.... At 17 they just blew it. They traded CA for Juan Dixon which is just retarded because Dixon can't play the point anyways.... Grizzard is not the steal of the draft. He is the bust of the draft. He has all of the talent in the world, but he is an underachieving baby with no work ethic whatsoever. He is the same player he was as a freshman. he hasn't put in the work to realize that potential.... Navarro was an OK pick, but nothing special. I'm not blaming them because Navarro was a late pick in round 2....

All in all, Washington had an OK draft, but far from being the best. They have some major question marks that go along with their draft. Don't confuse drafting big names, with having a good draft....
 

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Washington?

At 11 they drafted a good player, but Jeffries is a tweener and he is too thin to play PF right now. He doesn't have the ball skills to play 3 for maybe a few years.... At 17 they just blew it. They traded CA for Juan Dixon which is just retarded because Dixon can't play the point anyways.... Grizzard is not the steal of the draft. He is the bust of the draft. He has all of the talent in the world, but he is an underachieving baby with no work ethic whatsoever. He is the same player he was as a freshman. he hasn't put in the work to realize that potential.... Navarro was an OK pick, but nothing special. I'm not blaming them because Navarro was a late pick in round 2....

All in all, Washington had an OK draft, but far from being the best. They have some major question marks that go along with their draft. Don't confuse drafting big names, with having a good draft....
Exactly, he isn't big enough to play PF yet, so the Wizards will play him at SF.:D
 

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Yeah, and he doesn't have the ball skills to be successful offensively at the 3..... He will stuggle, IMO.....
 

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He's a good defender, so he can guard the other SF, he doesn't have a great jump shot, but he has a good one. Juwon Howard plays the SF position sometimes, Jeffries would be like Howard.:yes: A low post SF.
 

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I've got my vote to the Heat, without a doubt.

I live in Miami and I can tell with the love Caron Butler's going to get from the fans here and he'll be labelled as the 'savior' for sure he's gonna step up with some big numbers. I could bet about him him becomming the rookie of the year with any single one of y'all but maybe Jay Williams can give him a run for his money though.

I saw the press conference today and Butler really has alot of respect for Riley and with all Caron has gone trough in his life for sure he isn't gonna take this opportunity for granted. He's going to deliver the goods, and he'll do it in style.

It's great to see my hometown team has a future star player, it's about time! I'm excited by the way! :)
 

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Originally posted by The X Factor
He's a good defender, so he can guard the other SF, he doesn't have a great jump shot, but he has a good one. Juwon Howard plays the SF position sometimes, Jeffries would be like Howard.:yes: A low post SF.
LOL. You are missing the point. Juwon Howard has ball skills. Do you know what that means? It means he can put it on the floor and go by you, or pull up for the jumper off the dribble. Jeffries isn't as adept at this skill.......
 

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LOL. You are missing the point. Juwon Howard has ball skills. Do you know what that means? It means he can put it on the floor and go by you, or pull up for the jumper off the dribble. Jeffries isn't as adept at this skill.......
Yes I know what it means. And Howard has no dribbling skills, he's an awful example. Watch a Denver Nuggets game and tell me if you see him blowing past defenders.:no: Howard has a mid-range jumper, but he is a low post player. You never see howard running the floor dribbling the ball. He has no dribbling skills. I understand your point, but I think that Jared Jeffries could be a good low post SF. And Jeffries has way more dribbling skills than Juwon Howard.:yes:
 

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Just because you say it doesn't mean it's true. Howard has ball skills and experience, something Jeffries doesn't. If the Wizards start him at SF, they will have a frontcourt of players with no ball skills and they will also have mediocre jump shooting.... Jeffries isn't ready to play the 3. The Final 4 showed that....

I never see Howard running the floor, dribbling the ball? Well, I never claimed he was a PG... :no:
 

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Well, just because you say it, it doesn't mean it's true either does it?:no: ;)
 

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Well, just because you say it, it doesn't mean it's true either does it?:no: ;)
No, it's common sense.... Jeffries has mediocre handles and doesn't do a great job of creating off the dribble. You may not want to believe it, but it's true.....
 
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