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What player would you want in a clutch situation taking a shot. I'm basically saying what play in the NBA would you want one on one to win a ball game? Rank the players even if you don't like them, just think what would be the best player to have late in a game.
Rank your top 10 if you like from....

Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Mike Bibby, Sam Cassell, Vince Carter, Baron Davis, Tim Duncan, Michael Finely, Derek Fisher, Steve Francis, Robert Horry, Al Harrington, Allen Iverson, Jason Kidd, Tracy McGrady, Kobe Bryant, Dirk Nowitki, Kenyon Martin, Jamal Mashburn, Kevin Garnett, Reggie Miller, Rashard Lewis, Andre Miller, Jermaine O'Neal, Shaquille O'Neal, Paul Pierce, Jalen Rose, Latrell Sprewell, Predrag Stojakovic, Jerry Stackhouse, Wally Szczerbiak, John Stockton, Chris Webber, Nick VanExel, Keith VanHorn, Jason Terry, Antonie Walker, Rasheed Wallace,

and the soon to be clutch player in....
Kwame Brown, Tyson Chandler, Eddy Curry, Dajuan Wagner, Jay Williams, Caron Butler, Mike Dunleavy, Drew Gooden, Eddie Griffin, Joe Johnson, Qyntel Woods, Bonzi Wells, Yao Ming.

I would rank them like this.

*1)Shaquille O'Neal: Just because no player can stop him.
*2)Tracy McGrady: He has not shown it yet but I would hate to go up against him, he is so damn long and quick it would be real hard to defend him inside and out.
*3)Kobe Bryant: Has shown the clutch play, he can creat a shot when ever he wants but is alittle out of control at times.
*4)Paul Pierce: Very hard to matchup against, he is the best inside out game of any play in the NBA, he can do both but like Bryant can get out of control.
*5)Allen Iverson: No player can guard him one on one by himself, is a good shooter and can get his shot off better than any player in the NBA, plus he is a fighter..
*6)Rasheed Wallace: Once again a great inside out player, very tough to defend now that he can hit the 3, awesome around the basket and has a lot of moves to use.
*7)Tim Duncan: I know he should be higher but looking at it one on one it is hard to get Tim the ball at times, just look at this years playoffs, and from my view of inside out, Tim doesn't stretch the defense like Wallace/Pierce etc.
*8)Mike Bibby: As you all know he can play in the clutch, has a great mid range jumper and is great at it, he can get off his shot when the game is on the line.
*9)Baron Davis: Is hell to defend if a team doesn't have a big PG, great strength and power he can do it all, rebound and post up plus knock down 3's.
*10)Kevin Garnett: Could be anywhere form 3-5, but he is not a good enough post player, if he works on his 3 point shot and getting to the post he could be unstopable. But like most players he needs someone good around him and Wally just is not doing that for him, but has the athletisum, size, and quickness to take anyone one on one.
 

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How could Robert Horry not be on your list??? and this is coming from a Laker hater.
 

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1. Miller
2. Tim Hardaway
3. Iverson
4. Duncan
5. Payton
6. T-Mac
7. Kobe
8. C-Webb
9. Pierce
10. Nash

Their are more,but u said top 10.
 

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Actually Horry is on the top list but not on the top 10. He is a good player but he could not do that one on one, he REALLY gets a lot of help from having Shaq and Kobe on his team to draw double teams so he is open.
 

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Miller
Horry
Shaq
Bibby
Iverson
McGrady

Kobe is about 50/50.....
 

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How could most of you people not have kobe in the top, kobe is clutch, bottom line is, kOBE is the best clutch player since #23.
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Kobe misses clutch shots just as often as he makes them..... That is why he wasn't on the top of a lot of lists.
 

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if you need a bucket late in a game, kobe's the guy. he's got the most complete offensive package, he's produced the most (save for less complete offensive players horry and miller), and he's been in the biggest situations. it doesn't make much sense to me to dismiss him in this discussion. he's been the guy to close out so many close playoff games, not only in the last seconds, but as the games wind down.

miller you'd certainly want to have a look at the basket down the stretch. he's the guy you'd run the screen for.

after that, you've got premier offensive players in tmac, carter, pierce and iverson, all of whom know how to get a good shot off. they just haven't been through anything near what kobe's been through, nor have they produced like him. i can hear the shaq arguments already, but that doesn't affect the fact that kobe's been there and done it far more than the others. he's got the killer mentality, and the success in the bag to further fuel the mentality.
 

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Originally posted by KC
Kobe misses clutch shots just as often as he makes them..... That is why he wasn't on the top of a lot of lists.
so do the others.

the lakers often ride kobe in the 4th, and they are the best 4th qtr team in the league. it's no coincidence.

the others are all great offensive players (tmac, iverson, carter, bibby, pierce). but none have close to the overall resume of kobe late in games. situation, success, quantity, quality.

i'm pretty confident that a poll of players, coaches and management would have kobe well ahead of the others, with the possible exception of miller, who's also been there, done that. miller just doesn't have close to the overall arsenal kobe has.
 

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Throughout this year and into the playoffs, my Ten favorites, not in order after the top 3 :

1)Kobe
2)Kidd
3)Bibby
4)Pierce
5)Baron
6)Miller
7)TMac
8)Dirk
9)Iverson
10)Shaq

Honorable mention for playing in the year, but injured & not in the playoffs: Vince Carter
 

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Roberto Horry and Reggie Miller are the top 2, the others players aren't worth mentiong compared to those two guys who qualify as the best of the best IMO.
 

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Horry, Reggie, MJ.

Nobody else has been clutch for as long as those 3 have. Making big shots for a few seasons doesn't cut it, these 3 have been doing it their whole career.
 

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WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!:upset:

C-Webb hit a SH#TLOAD of clutch shots against the Lakers in the WCF!

U talk SH*T about me putting C-Webb in the top 10,but u put Vince in the top 5!:laugh:

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1 - Baron Davis
2 - T-Mac
3 - Vince Carter
4 - Allen Iverson
5 - Robert Horry
6 - Paul Pierce
7 - Kobe Bryant
8 - Steve Francis
9 - Steve Nash
10 - Chris Webber
 

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Originally posted by kflo
if you need a bucket late in a game, kobe's the guy. he's got the most complete offensive package, he's produced the most (save for less complete offensive players horry and miller), and he's been in the biggest situations. it doesn't make much sense to me to dismiss him in this discussion. he's been the guy to close out so many close playoff games, not only in the last seconds, but as the games wind down.

miller you'd certainly want to have a look at the basket down the stretch. he's the guy you'd run the screen for.

after that, you've got premier offensive players in tmac, carter, pierce and iverson, all of whom know how to get a good shot off. they just haven't been through anything near what kobe's been through, nor have they produced like him. i can hear the shaq arguments already, but that doesn't affect the fact that kobe's been there and done it far more than the others. he's got the killer mentality, and the success in the bag to further fuel the mentality.
Alvin Williams hot big shots for us all year long. It's because of Carter allowing Alvin to get his points in clutch. Sure he needs to be able to score but the attention is all on VC. Just like D on Shaq.

Kobe just have to worry about his own man and when another man coming at him but that doesnt mean he is totally getting the defensive attention from the other team.

Clutch player but this type of player can only be known as a finisher at this point of his career.
 

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Even though I am a Laker finatic, I cannot say that Kobe is on the same "clutch level" as Reggie. The Pacers are never out of a game, he just keeps hitting those 3's! Like this year! That half-court shot was sweet!

Horry is almost there, but I would have to say that if I needed a game-winner, I would go to Reggie. Set the screen, and shoot the rock!
 
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