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Actually I think it is safe to say that Hubert Davis was part of the deal to remove Juwan Howard. I think that Whitney was a legacy player from before MJs remodeling. Laettner was resigned last year but we needed to have a big man. You may feel different and you are entitled to do so.

So out of what I consider players we are considering moving

Laettner
Jahidi
Hubert
Whitney
Lue

I think Lue is the only guy that even fits with where this team is headed, and he was signed on a 2 year deal as a stop gap.

Get back to me in 2k3 when we sign that big mysterious FA. I seriously doubt it is going to happen.

Let me just say that the history of the past 20 years carries a lot of momentum. Even if we do sign someone I would be mighty suspicious about it.

Ideally, I would love to see Andre, Baron, and Bibby all go this route. I would spend the max on the first two and a pretty penny on Bibby. I haven't really checked out the SFs becoming available next year, but I do know I would prefer one of the guys that is young and talented to one of the absolute stars. We just aren't ready for the star and I feel that if we acquired one, we would start a buildup and tradeoff of young guys to go for the immediate gratification. THe franchise just isn't ready.
 

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OK, the most obvious point that needs to be made is that just because a three way trade is totally feasible, in which we were to part with Rip (and other guys) to get Baron or Miller.

At this point, I don't expect any deals to happen; they seemed to indicate Hughes was their "answer" at point, and have given no hint of a move of Rip (or anyone else of consequence). I agree of BCH's list of people who might be on their way out, the problem is that I don't see us getting much in return for any of those guys.

And additionally, I don't see us getting one of those tops FAs next year.

Personally, I'm not all that happy with the way things look in the long run. I think we need someone like Davis... someone that's going to bring star power, identity, and leadership to the team. Maybe I'm just judging things wrong, but I don't see Rip or Kwame really filling that kind of role. I'd quietly inquire around to see if we could deal Kwame (and Rip if anyone's interested) to get one of those PGs.

Yeah, we might be a season away from the best time to make a deal like that, but I see it coming.
 

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The Wizards lineup depends on a lot of factors, especially Jordan. Personally, I think the lineup will change form time to time depending on the Wizard's executions of the triangle or a similar offense. Obviously Collins has showed interest in having Jeffries play as a point forward. This starting lineup seems quite interesting.....

PG - Jeffries (guards SF)
SG - Dixon (guards PG) or Hughes
SF - Rip (guards SG)
PF - Kwame/Laettner (depending on Kwame's development)
C - Haywood

This lineup would create some serious matchup problems for the Wizards' opposition. If Jeffries can succesfully run the point it would give the Wizards size, which is something they haven't had for a long time. Jeffries, Dixon, Rip, and Hughes are all 2's or 3's that can run the point periodically. I like what MJ and Doug are trying to do with this squad, and I'm glad Unseld isn't participating too much anymore. The onlyt thing I wouldn't want to happen is Hughes to be running th epoint regularly. This would be a mistake because Hughes could be an all-star caliber two-guard, whereas he doesn't have nearly as much of an upside at the point.
 

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The Wizards have a lot of length.

I almost expect them to run some more zone this year with decent effect, especially when MJ is in the game. The weakness of the zone, rebounding, is a Wizards strength.
 

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I want to move Hidi in the worst way. I think he has topped out and will not improve much and, even if Haywood were to go down with an injury there are few centers in the league that could really hurt us bad with a combination of Thomas and L8.

I don't care who we get in return as long as they don't have a contract that hurts us more than Hidi's.

With that, the line-up would be (without MJ):

PG - Hughes, Lue, Dixon
SG - Rip, Davis
SF - JJ, Simmons, Grizzard
PF - L8, Brown
C - Haywood, Thomas

I have us moving C. Whit and Hidi. I don't know who we get in return.

We are still moving in the right direction, with young talent and cap room but we don't improve in last years win total.
 

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IMO a trade involving Kwame for Dre would be along the lines of Webber 4 Richmond and Sheed 4 Strickland. Dre is what, 6 or 7 yrs older than Kwame? Big for small, young for old (or older)...Cleveland would have to throw in picks for me to even consider it. At this point, Kwame and Haywood are untouchable, unless the Wiz are come across an offer they cant refuse.

However, I would trade a package of Rip, Jeffries, or Etan for the right price. If the right price included Davis or Dre (Davis being my first choice), I would definitely consider that deal. In addition, if we were to get an all-star calibre small forward like a Shawn Marion or Rashard Lewis, I would consider that even more. I would be mroe inclined to trade for a sf because the Wiz do not need a natural pg in the pinch post offense...
 

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if the wizards could get these players, is this a good starting lineup?

PG - Andre Miller
SG - Larry Hughes
SF - Mike Miller
PF - Kwame Brown
C - Brendan Haywood


some guy told me this in some chatroom and since i am not a wizards fan i was wonderin if this would be a good lineup?
 

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Miles is has more to offer commercially. People want to see him play, especially with Nike hyping him. Kwame hasn't played better or been promoted at all yet. The Cavs got someone that can fill the seats. Kwame wasn't going to do that yet.
 

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Originally posted by BCH
Miles is has more to offer commercially. People want to see him play, especially with Nike hyping him. Kwame hasn't played better or been promoted at all yet. The Cavs got someone that can fill the seats. Kwame wasn't going to do that yet.
Exactly. Kwame wouldn't fill seats like Miles, even though Miles and Kwame are for the most part on the same level.
 

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Do you guys really think people will come to see Miles? I personally don't think so. Honestly, I don't see him being hyped a lot... if you asked the average Joe on the street who's not a big sports fan, I don't think they'd know who Darius Miles is.

If I was Cleveland, I'd be marketing the hell out of DaJuan, but that's just me.
 

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At the Phonebooth last year for the Clippers games there were a significant amount of fans wearing a Darius Miles Clipper's jersey.

I think like iverson a certain segment of the population will come see him play.
 

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This is an interesting conversation in itself (and one that's relavent to the Wiz). Even if the the player himself, or his team wasn't that great in total, what players, as individuals are "draws" to you?

I would consider going to a game just to see AI play. Off the court, he's got some issues, but he's all blood, guts, and lightning quickness on the court.

Other players I'd pay to see: MJ, Garnett, Dirk and Nash, Baron Davis, Shaq and Kobe, TMac, Steve Francis, Jason Kidd, a young Scottie Pippen, Ron Artest (mostly because of his defensive intensity, but also to see if he freaks out). Reggie Miller (in the playoffs).

Guys I might pay to see in the future: Tyson Chandler, DaJuan Wagner, Jay Williams, Jason Richardson.
 

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I am personally rarely ever drawn to an event based on the individual involved unless it is MJ.

Other than that I might pay to see Shaq once for the novelty. I am more interested in the team vs team aspect.
 

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I like the team on team aspect also but there are only a few exciting players I'd pay to watch, MJ,Kobe,Vince Carter,Steve Francis, TMac and Baron Davis. That's all.
 

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There's only three guys I would pay to see.

1) MJ

2) Vince Carter

3) Jahidi White

OK..maybe not Jahidi.

I saw Vince play at an indoor court at Ruckers, where he caught the legendary windmill alleyoop. After he did it, the game was over...literally. The crowd ran onto the floor, cheering and hollering like madmen. After that, the refs called the game.
 
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