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"No punches were thrown -- only harsh words were traded -- but the Wizards' coaching staff felt compelled to separate the 7-footers with their largest player; moving 7-foot-3 rookie center Peter John Ramos from his seat behind the bench to sit between the two and maintain the peace. With 4 minutes 1 seconds left in the third quarter, Brown began chirping at Haywood on the bench. Haywood began shouting back, "Okay! Okay!" Then Haywood stood up out of his chair and had to be held back by teammate Laron Profit. Brown kept yelling toward Haywood in anger, until forward Antawn Jamison, who is on the injured list with right knee tendinitis, jumped out of his seat behind the bench and placed a hand on Brown to calm him down. The situation was diffused when the Wizards placed Ramos next to Brown, with Ramos serving as an obstruction and keeping Haywood out of Brown's vision during their time on the bench and during timeouts." Washington Post
 

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Why were they fighting?
 

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The team is having some internal friction as of late, but I was surprised to see Kwame and Wood going at it, those guys are supposed to be pretty close. The story hasn't really come out yet, but they weren't communicating on the court and were giving up tons of points in the paint to the Clips big men yesterday.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kwame is gone in a sign and trade this summer.
 

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Kwame must still be hurting from his 1v1's with a 40yr old Michael Jordan.

p.s. where did a trashy 1v1 player like Brown get his ego?
 

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The team is sucking at the moment. There was probably some disagreement or someone blaming someone else, and they were both already pissed off from losing.

If it comes down to Kwame vs Brendan in the offseason, I'd take Haywood in a heartbeat. Kwame has a bad attitude. He sulked when MJ criticized him personally. Although it was Jordan's fault, Kwame could have been mature and gotten over it. He didn't have to ruin a potentially great career by allowing Jordan's words to get to him. Although he still has great talent and is still young, Haywood is better than him now, and has been for almost all of their careers. He is young as well, and although he never has had All-Star potential talent, like Brown, he's a sure thing to be an above average Center for the rest of his career. His main criticism was his inability to catch the ball, and he completely removed his problem with dropping the rock last summer, and it's showing. Kwame hasn't improved as much as Haywood has over his career.

Brown doesn't seem to have any understanding of the game at this point. If he finds a way to use his talent, he'll be a great player. He played great for a stretch last season. But other than that, he's been worthy of nothing more than the end of the rotation. Not quite a benchwarmer, but not playing big minutes. He can play great one-on-one defense, but his team defense is horrible. He doesn't know how to help, step up to stop penetration, and doesn't block any of his teammate's men's shots. He is very quick and his moves are above average in the post. He can pass well from the post, and has a decent mid-range shot for a big man. He has no go-to move. He rarely goes up strong despite having a strong body and good jumping ability. He doesn't understand how to have good spacing and sometimes works outside of the flow of the offense, forcing a guard to bail him out and jack up a shot with the shotclock about to expire, and turning the ball over too often. He often fails to finish an open lay-up or dunk. He is a great rebounder, though. When given a lot of minutes, it's not surprising to see him pull down 10+ rebounds.

Haywood's strengths are the opposite of Kwame's. Offensively, he doesn't have a wide array of post-up moves, but he has two or three moves that work great for him. He often uses a hook shot or simply faking a spin to one direction and going the other way to throw it down hard. The Wizards are starting to go to him a lot more recently, and he's scoring. He scores at a very high FG%. He finishes almost every time. He's one of the best offensive rebounders in the game, but isn't a good defensive rebounder. Defensively, his one-on-one defense is average to slightly above average. He won't consistently stop a man posting up on him, although he's not bad at it. He is, however, a great help defender. He knows how to cut off dribble penetration and blocks more than his share of shots. His hands used to be a problem because he would always drop the pass when somebody dumped it off to him and instead of throwing down an easy slam the defense would have time to catch up and foul him. His catching is no longer a problem, but it's nothing spectacular, nor is his passing. He'll never be a number one option, but he's a solid big man.

While Kwame has a great amount of potential, his talent has not been utilized. He was the first pick, and has been one of the worst number one picks in NBA history. He was the first player ever to be drafted first straight out of high school. Looking back, it's pretty obvious college would have helped him a lot to succeed in the NBA. Meanwhile, Haywood was the twentieth overall pick after graduating in four years from the University of North Carolina, home of one of the most, if not the most, prestigious basketball programs in the world. He has always at least met expectations. If both of them maximized their potential, Kwame would be much better, possibly even an All-NBA team calibur player. However, that's unlikely, and the way things are, I'd much rather take Haywood.
 

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maybe the pressure of playing every game with playoff positioning on the line is getting to them???

maybe no chemistry??, this team was built through free agency
 

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Haywood is now out for the rest of the season so that's probably what started the fight. Haywood was probably a little more emotional due to the injury and a fight insued with Kwame.

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maybe the pressure of playing every game with playoff positioning on the line is getting to them???

maybe no chemistry??, this team was built through free agency

Although this team was built on free agency, this team already has a lot players who have been drafted or played together at one point or another. Arenas, Hughes, and Jamison all played together at Golden State. Jamison and Haywood both played together and Golden State. Finally, Brown and Haywood as well as Jeffries, Hayes, Dixon, Blake, and Ramos have all been drafted by the WIzards.
 

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what this team needs in a new coach. When you have a damn coach who won't fight for any calls, you can't really expect to succeed. The Wizards have been winning games based purely on talent level. Jamison is also out and since he is the leader and glue to this team (any objections Shanghai?), they are having some issues.

btw. Haywood is out 2-4 weeks
 

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I'd be pissed to if Rebraca scored 19 points, easiest thing to do is to blame the other guy right. Don't know why they would be arguing, it certianly couldn't be because of defense sinse neither didn't play any nor did anyone else for that matter. They got outplayed badly by the Clippers frontline and were probably a little frustrated thats my take on the situation could be more but whoknows. BTW Brendan got hurt at the end of the game the incident happened in the 3rd quater.
 
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