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Old 06-27-2014, 10:16 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Yup.. these are the types of picks to swing for the fences... you were not going to get someone to put you over the top with that pick
True. But they could have got a solid bench, possible starter if they drafted properly. This isn't like the 2013 draft. There were solid, or at least what appears to be solid players available at that pick.
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True. But they could have got a solid bench, possible starter if they drafted properly. This isn't like the 2013 draft. There were solid, or at least what appears to be solid players available at that pick.
I guess the 'bolded' part is the sticking point.

We still have no idea how any of these lower end guys will translate to the NBA.

Bruno could well be the pick of the draft, but if he isn't, he likely join 8 of the other 10 picks in the 20's that didn't work out.

Masai is one hell of a talent scout, he's proven that time and time again, and despite my disappointment at not taking Shabazz or Capela, he must not have seen enough from the to warrant selection. I trust his judgement.

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Ok Masai, I'm excited.

That shot release is high, smooth and looks quick. He is very light off his feet and holy shit does he have length.
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I just like to put things into perspective. Even if this pick turns out to be trash it's only the 20th pick. If our team fails next year it's not going to be because we didn't draft a certain player that was available at 20. If there is a player that's this valuable then at least 10 other teams ahead of us made the same mistake.

I just wish Masai was hired a year earlier. He would've taken a chance with Drummond instead of going with Ross as Drummond's upside was so much greater than Ross's.
see the mentality of raptor fans/management? we are so accustomed to failure we don't even expect/give our best effort anymore. i don't care if only 2 out of 10 players available at the time would pan out, we still got to make our best pick. it is inexcusable to draft a second round talent when there were a handful of solid prospects available.

i am hopeful that masai is the savior that so many raptor fans think he is. unfortunately his draft picks this year pretty much shatters my confidence in him. i mean really.. no homework on the 20th pick that you had to resort to picking the guy you were hoping to get in the second round? i would fire people who half-ass their jobs like that...

i understand harsh words are difficult for raptor fans to hear during honeymoon season with the GM but it was the same BS with colangelo. i was calling him out on his BS painting bargnani as a franchise player and signing of hedo, kleiza when so many raptor fans were willing to give him the benefit of a doubt. Masai has got to do better.
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He will wear the number 5. I wanted him to just have 'Bruno' on his shirt.



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I'm trying to be cautious but his ceiling looks to be greatest human being of all time.
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Re: 2014 Draft | Raps pick Bruno Caboclo & Deandre Daniels

I wonder what Bruno's 7 middle names are.
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see the mentality of raptor fans/management? we are so accustomed to failure we don't even expect/give our best effort anymore. i don't care if only 2 out of 10 players available at the time would pan out, we still got to make our best pick. it is inexcusable to draft a second round talent when there were a handful of solid prospects available.
I don't think my assessment has anything to do with the culture of the team as I specifically listed all the 20th picks in years past to show the likelihood of the pick being a bad player. This was to counter the notion that the Raptors gave up a solid player in order to take a risk on an unknown player. I was simply saying that if we look at the past, players taken at or after 20 are mostly bad. You can't make the claim that you gave up a solid player when chances are you wouldn't have gotten a solid player in the first place. Even right now can you really tell me a player that was drafted after 20 and predict that he will be an impactful player? Is it Shabazz Napier? Clint Capela? Rodney Hood? Kyle Anderson? I'm willing to bet that more than half of them would be out of the league in 3 years. That's not crazy talk, that's just what the draft history tells us.

As for your point of make our best pick I definitely agree that we should give our best effort. I'm saying that I can't make make that judgement right now without giving him a chance to show what he can do.
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Why is nobody talking about Bruno the player? Can we try that?
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