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Old 06-28-2014, 09:59 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Re: 2014 Draft | Raps pick Bruno Caboclo & Deandre Daniels

He has good height at 6'9" and length. Can't say too much about him as a player until Summer League.
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Re: 2014 Draft | Raps pick Bruno Caboclo & Deandre Daniels

i gave my thoughts on bruno the player. based on those videos he looks like an amateur. freak athlete for sure but damn the kid needs major work on his game. he even just needs to play more basketball. how do you mistime your jumps like that?

he looks like a kid. probably a good kid too. so i hate to be critical of him. but based on those videos(including the recent workout for raps) he had no right to be picked in the first round. i was watching videos of gordon, smart, and even the unathletic kyle anderson(who was picked 10 picks later) and they all look so much smoother. that's the difference between a legit nba prospect and an amateur athlete.
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He has good height at 6'9" and length. Can't say too much about him as a player until Summer League.
Bruno vs Julius Randle on opening day. Then vs Gary Harris.

Both picked above him, both have years of experience on him, so I guess we'll find an awful lot out in regards to his 'readiness' in those two games.
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Re: 2014 Draft | Raps pick Bruno Caboclo & Deandre Daniels

Heard on Toronto radio, us and the Suns were 2 of the teams most interested in Bruno. The common link was Leandro Barbosa. I guess Masai thought Suns would have drafted Bruno instead of Bogdan so he could not wait until 37.
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Heard on Toronto radio, us and the Suns were 2 of the teams most interested in Bruno. The common link was Leandro Barbosa. I guess Masai thought Suns would have drafted Bruno instead of Bogdan so he could not wait until 37.
Masai must have been really pissed at the Suns franchise on draft day.
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Re: 2014 Draft | Raps pick Bruno Caboclo & Deandre Daniels

Masai is no dummy. If he thought this kid would be there at 37, he would have waited.


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It was clearly the worst pick in the draft man.
That's impossible to say at this point. I mean he may very well bust but it seems like every year there are Euros that never end up making it over (what's up Yaroslav Korolev) so I'm just saying I think it's a meaningless evaluation at this point.

But that's besides my initial point, every year guys throw fits no matter who we draft seemingly out of habit and it's generally quite excessive. I mean let these guys do their jobs and let's see what happens down the line, and if a pick doesn't work out then, well, shit, it happens. And I'm not trying to make a statement specific to guys on here but about the collective Raptors fan base in general. The bottom line is Bruno is a Raptor, so I'll hope for the best.

To be clear, I have no opinion of Bruno so I have no choice but to trust in our team's management. At the same time I'm not going to pretend that outside a couple exceptions (Wiggins, Bhullar and Stauskas whom I know from their time playing up here - totally patting myself on the back here haha), I've seen much more than highlight tapes for any of these guys if that. And I'll assume that the same goes for most anyone else too. So I mean just because Jay Bilas or the nbadraft.net guys didn't have the guy ranked at or around 20 doesn't mean Masai's board was wrong. And for the record, it was the 20th pick.

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How can you not be at least a little pumped about this kid? @c_dog @R-Star
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That's impossible to say at this point. I mean he may very well bust but it seems like every year there are Euros that never end up making it over (what's up Yaroslav Korolev) so I'm just saying I think it's a meaningless evaluation at this point.

But that's besides my initial point, every year guys throw fits no matter who we draft seemingly out of habit and it's generally quite excessive. I mean let these guys do their jobs and let's see what happens down the line, and if a pick doesn't work out then, well, shit, it happens. And I'm not trying to make a statement specific to guys on here but about the collective Raptors fan base in general. The bottom line is Bruno is a Raptor, so I'll hope for the best.

To be clear, I have no opinion of Bruno so I have no choice but to trust in our team's management. At the same time I'm not going to pretend that outside a couple exceptions (Wiggins, Bhullar and Stauskas whom I know from their time playing up here - totally patting myself on the back here haha), I've seen much more than highlight tapes for any of these guys if that. And I'll assume that the same goes for most anyone else too. So I mean just because Jay Bilas or the nbadraft.net guys didn't have the guy ranked at or around 20 doesn't mean Masai's board was wrong. And for the record, it was the 20th pick.

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My only issue is that the Raptors probably could have got him with their 2nd pick. Why jump off the board to get him at 20 when he'll be there at your later pick? That's what confuses me.
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How can you not be at least a little pumped about this kid? @c_dog @R-Star
I hope the best for him. He seems like a really nice young kid. He has the physical tools to be a beast. It will be interesting to see if he can put it all together. This might be a kid who takes 4 years to catch up, but when he does, he could be a hell of a player on both side of the ball.
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I hope the best for him. He seems like a really nice young kid. He has the physical tools to be a beast. It will be interesting to see if he can put it all together. This might be a kid who takes 4 years to catch up, but when he does, he could be a hell of a player on both side of the ball.
21-year old @R-Star said same thing about Jon Bender ten years ago

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21-year old @R-Star said same thing about Jon Bender ten years ago

When the Raptors drafted Bender with the 5th overall pick in 1999, it was the smartest move the franchise has ever made. Trading him for Antonio Davis has cursed them with years of mediocrity.

Little known fact that I mention once or twice a year and then cry about. The Pacers went on the the Finals against LA in 2000. Bender didn't play at all, and they took LA to 6. Put Antonio Davis on that team and the Pacers have their first title, or at the very least, another screw job to point at when the refs were the ones handing out the titles in the NBA.
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My only issue is that the Raptors probably could have got him with their 2nd pick. Why jump off the board to get him at 20 when he'll be there at your later pick? That's what confuses me.
I honestly don't buy that he'd have been there at 37. I've looked at some tape and it's clear that he is going to be plenty raw and as the youngest player in the draft, his declaring just does not add up. This leads me to strongly suspect that some team had promised to take him. Now I know these reports are often quite dubious but he had been linked to Utah, Phoenix and San Antonio, all of whom picked between 20 and 37, and picking and stashing a young upside prospect seems to be the exact type of thing OKC would do.

And in the end, he had to have been the next guy on Masai's board and the ability to trade down is never a given. Masai got his guy. Now if you pressed me into saying he was more likely to be a bust or solid starter, I'd be inclined to say the former, but again it's the 20th pick. You get rotation guys at these picks and they kind of do grow on trees.
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Re: 2014 Draft | Raps pick Bruno Caboclo & Deandre Daniels

I don't think it's possible to make the "worst pick" of the draft at 20. Picks this late just don't have that much of an impact.
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