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Conference Expansion: Explosion Happening!

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#1 · (Edited)
There has been plenty of rumor and articles during the past couple of weeks that suggest possible expansion of various BCS leagues......and now comes this from the Big East:

Marinatto: Time to think outside the box

Their commish talks about possible expansion to 20 teams!!! It has also been suggested that the Big Ten may go to 16 teams and the Pac-10 is on the verge of adding Colorado and Utah. Looks like it will be an all out war between the BCS leagues......and then the fallout hits the rest of us. I think that we are going to see some BIG changes!
 
#114 ·
Boise State to the Mountain West is now off the table thanks to Texas and the Texas Legislature trying to strong arm Baylor into the PAC-10 mix. :rolleyes: The MWC is now waiting to see if Colorado gets jilted.......I doubt it. No way the uber liberal PAC-10 gets forced by the Texas Legislature to take a conservative Baptist school from Texas. I don't even think that they really want Texas Tech, but I think that UT forced that one on the PAC-10 as it is.

If the PAC-16 plan does fall apart.......I think that Colorado and Utah will definitely still jump to create a PAC-12 at minimum.

I'm going to re-do my predicted conference shifts below. First shoe to fall looks like Missouri and Nebraska to the Big Ten then all hell breaks loose:

Big Ten:

Rutgers
Syracuse*
Penn State
Pitt

Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana

Purdue
Northwestern
Illinois
Wisconsin

Minnesota
Iowa
Missouri
Nebraska

* Notre Dame replaces Syracuse if they decide to join the Big Ten.

PAC-10:

16 member scenario:

Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Colorado

Arizona
Arizona State

USC
UCLA
Stanford
Cal
Oregon
Oregon State
Washington
Washington State

12 member scenario:

Colorado
Utah

Arizona
Arizona State
UCLA
USC

Stanford
Cal
Oregon
Oregon State
Washington
Washington State

Big 12:

Missouri and Nebraska to Big Ten and Colorado to PAC-10 scenario:

Houston
Rice
Texas
Texas A&M
Baylor
TCU


Texas Tech
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State

Missouri and Nebraska to Big Ten and 6 schools to PAC-10:

Big 12 ceases to exist.

SEC:

Kentucky
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
South Carolina
Clemson
Georgia
Florida
Miami


Georgia Tech
Florida State
Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
LSU
Arkansas

ACC:

Boston College
UConn
Syracuse**
Temple***
Maryland
West Virginia
Virginia Tech

Virginia
Wake Forest
North Carolina State
North Carolina
Duke
Louisville

**If they don't get a Big Ten invite
***If Syracuse gets an Big Ten invite

There's a good possibility that the ACC goes to 16 members.......but I'm having a hard time grasping that idea at this point. If they do, I'm guessing that some combination of Cincinnati, Memphis, Central Florida, South Florida, ODU and Charlotte come into play.

Big East Football:

If Big Ten takes 2 or more members.

Big East Football ceases to exist.
 
#117 ·
No move yet.....looks like Friday still.

Interesting comment that Missouri may no longer get a seat at the Big Ten table. Could mean that the Big Ten was jilted by Notre Dame and is only after 1 new member (Nebraska) now. If that happened, the only other moves that we may see is Colorado and Utah to the PAC-10, 2 replacements in the Big 12 (Arkansas and Houston/Rice/Memphis) for Nebraska and Colorado, 1 new SEC member to replace Arkansas (Florida State?), 1 new ACC member to replace FSU (Syracuse?)and Boise State to the Mountain West to replace Utah.
 
#118 ·
The next shoe is falling......looks like we are moving toward the 16 member Super Conference scenario:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5270048

So with the Big 12 (6) going to the new PAC-16.......that forces the hand of the Big Ten. Could they still be waiting on Notre Dame??? Looks like they will be forced to extend an invitation to Mizzou if Notre Dame is out of the picture.......then 3 Big East members come into play. The Kansas "situation" is a quandary for sure......hard to believe that they could be left in the dust.

You have to think that the SEC wheels are turning now.....maybe a jilted Mizzou, or even Kansas and K-State enter the SEC picture along with FSU, Miami, Clemson, and GA Tech.
 
#121 · (Edited)
The latest "hot" rumor is an absolute STUNNER if true...........

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...cles/403805-breaking-news-notre-dame-and-four-others-to-join-big-ten-conference

This might explain the Big Ten's "low profile" over the past couple of weeks regarding expansion plans even as rumor and innuendo has reached a fever pitch. I have a feeling there are A LOT of back room deals being worked out right now. The Big Ten(16) and Pac-10(16) are going to be blockbuster conferences when this is all said and done!

If the Notre Dame, Maryland, Rutgers and Syracuse to the Big Ten rumor is true then we can start deciphering what will happen to the other conferences..........

SEC - Missouri has got to be one of their targets if they are jilted by the Big Ten. The only other Big 12 school on their radar may be Kansas (gotta think that Kansas State will be a tag-along). Although the ACC might be hit with the shocking departure of Maryland to the Big Ten, they might only lose Florida State to the SEC. Clemson wants into the SEC. If Vanderbilt jumps ship to the ACC then Miami could look to climb aboard the the SEC Express. My prediction:

The "new" SEC:

Kentucky
South Carolina
Clemson
Georgia
Tennessee
Florida
Florida State
Auburn

Alabama
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
LSU
Arkansas
Missouri
Kansas
Kansas State


ACC/Big East - The ACC will need to act quickly if they intend on adding the "best names" left. They could find themselves in a similar, but more favorable posit or ion than Big East Football. Even with the departure of up to 4 members, the ACC still has a solid foundation of 8 or 9 schools that play football.....and that trumps the 6 remaining Big East Football members (UConn/Pitt/Cincinnati/West Virginia/Louisville/South Florida). There could be schools begging to get into the ACC as conference affiliations come crumbling down around the survivors of this Armageddon. The ACC could buck the 16 team trend and add just 4 to get back to 12.......but as they showed a few years ago, they are not afraid to mix it up to ensure their own survival as a BCS conference:

The "new" ACC:

BC
UConn
Pitt
West Virginia
Virginia Tech
Louisville
Cincinnati
Vanderbilt

Virginia
Duke
North Carolina
NC State
Wake Forest
Georgia Tech
Miami
South Florida


While ACC Football revenue will come nowhere close to that of the other 3 BCS conferences, this conference would be the best and deepest basketball conference hands down!

Good-bye Big East Football.
 
#122 ·
Wow I didn't see Maryland moving. If that is true they are going to make a lot of money but are moving into a football conference with a terrible team, they are killing there great basketball rivalries with Duke, UNC, and Virginia, and they kill themselves in lacrosse. Though they probably will just stay in the ACC in lacrosse since the Big Ten doesn't sponsor it.
 
#124 ·
I'm right here, in the heart of the Big 12 Conference (Texas). I was listening to Randy Galloway and Co. yesterday (ESPN Radio 103.3 FM) and they were chastising UT-Austin for keeping its arms crossed and not doing anything to keep the Big 12 together.

The Board of Regents at the University of Nebraska have pretty much decided to move to the Big 10. UT-Austin doesn't want to be seen as the school that bolted and brought the Big 12 down, so now they are blaming Nebraska and Tom Osborne for listening to the "mermaid chants" of the Big 10.

However, at the Athletic Dept. in Austin, every coach is being told that "the Big 12 is no more." Sure, like Nebraska by itself was going to bring the house down. Now Texas, Texas Tech and Texas A&M are entertaining the idea of joining the Pac 16. The Big 12 teams are not even studying the idea of inviting Texas Christian from the Mountain West to fill the void. They needed this excuse to break up the Big 12 and join a "super conference."

To everybody down here, it made more sense for UT-Austin to join the SEC, but they refuse citing "academic reasons." They see the SEC as lower-caliber institutions than those in the Big 12. Horsefeathers! The problem is that the Longhorns realize that in the SEC, a loss or two could cost them a BCS Bowl invitation (Alabama, Florida, et al), while in the old Big 12 they use to run the table. In a Pac 16, the only true rival would be probably USC.

Very interesting the way this is sorting out!

:wtf:
 
#127 ·
To everybody down here, it made more sense for UT-Austin to join the SEC, but they refuse citing "academic reasons." They see the SEC as lower-caliber institutions than those in the Big 12.

Very interesting the way this is sorting out!

:wtf:
Texas is going to go wherever it wants and it will. UTIMCO has the fifth largest endowment among US college endowments. It manages $12 billion dollars.

If they really don't want to go to the SEC because of academic reasons (which we all know is really code for "we want to go where we can make the most money" but they can't just say that), however if that really was the reason I can't blame them because the only decent academic schools in the SEC are Vanderbilt and Florida-steep drop off after those two schools. Obviously, a conference with Stanford, Cal, and UCLA is a much more desirable place for them to be among peers academically.

This new "Pac 16" looks pretty awesome to me.
 
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#128 ·
I never really understood the whole wanting to be with academic peers thing. It's nice for the Ivy League and maybe Patriot, but at the BCS level, who cares about the difference between an Ohio State and an Oklahoma? Vandy, Duke, Rice, Northwestern, Georgetown, and Stanford have all dipped down in their conference affiliations and are no worse for it.
 
#130 ·
The latest........

http://www.texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1093010

I think that this guy knows what is going on and I'm putting my money on what he says. So it looks like Texas A&M may be holding out for the SEC.......but the other 4 (Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State) are PAC-10 bound. If Texas A&M doesn't jump then Kansas or Utah may take their place as #16. Gotta be thinking that Jayhawk fans are rooting HARD for Texas A&M to go SEC.
 
#141 ·
The Texas Board of Regents meets next Tuesday when it is expected that an announcement of their move to the PAC-10 (along with Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State) will take place:

http://texas.rivals.com/

Texas A&M is still on the fence and considering the SEC. If the Aggies don't go to the PAC-10 then Kansas or Utah come into play as PAC-10 member #16.

This spells trouble for the East Coast conferences (ACC/Big East/A-10/CAA) as it appears that a major realignment is inevitable.
 
#142 ·
Updated predictions based on recent events:

Big Ten (12)

Penn State
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue

Northeastern
Illinois
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Nebraska

I think that the Big Ten is waiting on Notre Dame and will continue to wait before going to 16.

PAC-10 (16)

Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
Cal
Stanford
UCLA
USC

Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
Utah
Texas
Texas Tech
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State


SEC (16)

Kentucky
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida
Alabama
Auburn

Ole Miss
Mississippi State
LSU
Arkansas
Texas A&M
Missouri
Kansas
Kansas State


ACC - No changes

Big East - No changes