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Article about the Nocioni/O'Neal incident

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#1 ·
Andres Nocioni has played every position but PG so far. Tonight he was asked to guard Jermaine O'Neal. O'Neal did his best to establish position on the block. Nocioni did his best to front O'Neal and make it difficult for him to receive an entry pass from the wing.

O'Neal took exception to Nocioni's physical play after Andres was whistled for a foul. Andres extended his hand twice to Jermaine in a show of good sportsmanship. O'Neal refused to shake hands.

On the Bulls very next offensive set Andres ended up with the ball under the Bulls basket. He left his feet in an attempt to lay the ball in. O'Neal crashed into Nocioni from behind, planting his hipbone solidly into Nocioni's back. Andres crumbled to the floor in obvious pain while O'Neal stood just in front of him and stared down at Andres as he rolled on the floor in pain. This all took place right in front of referee **** Bavetta. No foul was called.

Indiana brought the ball upcourt while Nocioni was still on the floor forcing Hinrich to commit his 5th foul to stop play. A minute or two later Nocioni was helped to his feet and assisted off the court by a member of the Bulls staff while the Pacers sound man played The Village People's Macho Man to the delight of the crowd.

Bulls assistant coach Jim Boylan went off on the entire Pacers scorer's table demanding to know who made the decision to play that song.

Celebrating a home team victory with music is one thing. So is teasing an opposing player who's just fouled out with "Happy Trails" or "Hit The Road, Jack." But celebrating an injury to an opposing player by mocking him with a song about machismo as he struggles to leave the floor under assistance is completely bush league and classless.

Shame on Jermaine O'Neal for refusing to shake hands with Nocioni. And shame on him again for crashing into him from behind after he'd left his feet. And shame one him one more time for standing before a player he just injured and looking down on him as though he was glad he injured him.

Shame on **** Bavetta who swallowed his whistle in a brazen display of partiality for an established star vs. a rookie.

And finally, shame on the Pacers organization, particularly the employee who ridiculed an opposing player's injury by playing music intended to taunt the player for exhibiting pain.

Interestingly, after Nocioni reached the Bulls bench and stood there trying to stretch his injured back, it was Ron Artest who walked over to him to shake his hand in a display of respect. Apparently Artest has more respect for Andres' aggressive style of play than the rest of the classless hayseeds who call Indianapolis home. I'd love to hear someone among the Pacers faithful or their own local media take O'Neal and the Pacers' sound man to task for their unprofessional behavior.
 
#8 ·
Well, in Indiana, they have this thing where they play the Macho man song and they film people dancing to the music. It's called the "macho man cam" Supposed to be filler during an interruption of play or Timeout or break. still they should have stopped that. If this were a seaon ending injury, they'd really question the song choice.

I remember Andres extending his hand and Jermaine coldly rejected him. :no:
 
#9 ·
Re: Re: Re: Article about the Nocioni/O'Neal incident

Originally posted by <b>Chi_Lunatic</b>!


no, i'm not..

i got that from another board

no props given
That was no article, Chi_Lunatic. As johnston797 correctly points out, I'm the original author of that post at RealGM.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=298029

Thanks for exposing Chi's act of plagiarism. This is just another reason to stay away a while longer. Sorry, TBF.
 
#10 ·
Originally posted by <b>spongyfungy</b>!
Well, in Indiana, they have this thing where they play the Macho man song and they film people dancing to the music. It's called the "macho man cam" Supposed to be filler during an interruption of play or Timeout or break. still they should have stopped that. If this were a seaon ending injury, they'd really question the song choice.
You are correct. They didn't play Macho Man to mock him, that would've been really harsh. It was Macho Man Cam sponsored by so-and-so... it's something that was probably arranged so far in advance that it never really even crossed anyone's mind until it was too late. I'm sure if the Pacers organization could do it all over again, they would've changed it.

Jermaine was a big *** for staring down Nocioni after he was on the floor writhing in pain. That being said, excluding Jermaine's poor sportsmanship, it was just a good hard foul... nothing to go ape**** about. Even on the replays, although you could see contact was made, it didn't stick out as anything flagrant. I can understand how a ref could miss it... they make so many bad calls each game, that one doesn't stick out. The way Nocioni plays, he better get used to plays like that.
 
#11 ·
Originally posted by <b>Chi_Lunatic</b>!
Andres Nocioni has played every position but PG so far. Tonight he was asked to guard Jermaine O'Neal. O'Neal did his best to establish position on the block. Nocioni did his best to front O'Neal and make it difficult for him to receive an entry pass from the wing.

O'Neal took exception to Nocioni's physical play after Andres was whistled for a foul. Andres extended his hand twice to Jermaine in a show of good sportsmanship. O'Neal refused to shake hands.

On the Bulls very next offensive set Andres ended up with the ball under the Bulls basket. He left his feet in an attempt to lay the ball in. O'Neal crashed into Nocioni from behind, planting his hipbone solidly into Nocioni's back. Andres crumbled to the floor in obvious pain while O'Neal stood just in front of him and stared down at Andres as he rolled on the floor in pain. This all took place right in front of referee **** Bavetta. No foul was called.

Indiana brought the ball upcourt while Nocioni was still on the floor forcing Hinrich to commit his 5th foul to stop play. A minute or two later Nocioni was helped to his feet and assisted off the court by a member of the Bulls staff while the Pacers sound man played The Village People's Macho Man to the delight of the crowd.

Bulls assistant coach Jim Boylan went off on the entire Pacers scorer's table demanding to know who made the decision to play that song.

Celebrating a home team victory with music is one thing. So is teasing an opposing player who's just fouled out with "Happy Trails" or "Hit The Road, Jack." But celebrating an injury to an opposing player by mocking him with a song about machismo as he struggles to leave the floor under assistance is completely bush league and classless.

Shame on Jermaine O'Neal for refusing to shake hands with Nocioni. And shame on him again for crashing into him from behind after he'd left his feet. And shame one him one more time for standing before a player he just injured and looking down on him as though he was glad he injured him.

Shame on **** Bavetta who swallowed his whistle in a brazen display of partiality for an established star vs. a rookie.

And finally, shame on the Pacers organization, particularly the employee who ridiculed an opposing player's injury by playing music intended to taunt the player for exhibiting pain.

Interestingly, after Nocioni reached the Bulls bench and stood there trying to stretch his injured back, it was Ron Artest who walked over to him to shake his hand in a display of respect. Apparently Artest has more respect for Andres' aggressive style of play than the rest of the classless hayseeds who call Indianapolis home. I'd love to hear someone among the Pacers faithful or their own local media take O'Neal and the Pacers' sound man to task for their unprofessional behavior.
:laugh:
 
#12 ·
Re: Re: Re: Re: Article about the Nocioni/O'Neal incident

Originally posted by <b>Kismet</b>!


That was no article, Chi_Lunatic. As johnston797 correctly points out, I'm the original author of that post at RealGM.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=298029

Thanks for exposing Chi's act of plagiarism. This is just another reason to stay away a while longer. Sorry, TBF.
I got this POST off another board, wheather u WROTE it or not..I could care less....
 
#14 ·
You gotta love the way Nocioni plays, but his overly physical style of play isn't going to make him friends in the NBA on opposing teams, which is a good and bad thing.

Good thing, because he's taking no crap and bringing it every night. Bad thing, because you don't want to fire guys up like O'Neal who can almost singlehandedly decimate a team.

As FJ would say... I like the cut of his jib. :p
 
#18 ·
Here's the highlight of all this: Artest is the one giving Nocioni a handshake. What a lovable goon! It's like Doctor Doom went over to comfort a young Green Goblin, and I can't help but think it's awesome. I only wish I knew if and what Artest said to the young gun. Plus that would be a classic picture at this stage in Nocioni's development.

It's interesting, most here and me included thought it was going to be Artest and Nocioni clashing.
 
#19 ·
Common Decency

Originally posted by <b>Chi_Lunatic</b>!
I got this POST off another board, wheather u WROTE it or not..I could care less....
You thought this post was worthy to share with us, so you should have the common decency to credit the author.
 
#21 ·
Nocioni is the man, point blank. If he can get Jermaine O'Neal so mad that he has to resort to trying to hurt a guy instead of trying to beat a guy on the basketball court, then we've got a winner.

Just add Jermaine O'Neal to the list of guys that Nocioni now owns.
 
#25 ·
Originally posted by <b>Johnny Mac</b>!
Nocioni is the man, point blank. If he can get Jermaine O'Neal so mad that he has to resort to trying to hurt a guy instead of trying to beat a guy on the basketball court, then we've got a winner.

Just add Jermaine O'Neal to the list of guys that Nocioni now owns.
:laugh:

The object of the game is to outscore the other team, not to make their players angry. The Bulls have beaten the Pacers three times in the past five seasons, once that changes, get back to me about which Bulls "own" anyone on the Pacers. Andres Nocioni didn't even have that great of a game.

O'Neal has been doing immature things like this for years and I keep waiting for him to grow up, but it keeps not happening. He'll often start pouting on the court because of something as small as being called for a foul or for goal tending.
 
#26 ·
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Article about the Nocioni/O'Neal incident

Originally posted by <b>Chi_Lunatic</b>!


I got this POST off another board, wheather u WROTE it or not..I could care less....
People like this arent removed from bbb.net, and i'm with you kismet keeps me away.